Very long time scales and black hole thermal equilibrium
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The paper examines whether long-time correlation functions of eternal black holes respect a unitarity-based recurrence bound. It argues that semiclassical horizons produce a continuous spectrum, making correlators decay to zero, while a topological instanton sum can recover the time-averaged bound only in order of magnitude, not the expected recurrence time or amplitude.
Key findings
- Semiclassical black-hole correlators vanish at long times because the horizon supports a continuous frequency spectrum; the recurrence index is \(L=0\), whereas a finite discrete spectrum gives \(L \sim e^{-S(\beta)}/(\beta\Gamma)\) or \(L \sim e^{-S}\).
- Summing thermodynamically subleading backgrounds with discrete spectra yields \(L_{\rm inst} \approx e^{-2\Delta I} C_{Y/X}^2 L_Y\), matching the unitarity bound in order of magnitude when a black hole dominates, with suppression of order \(e^{-1/G_N}\).
- The instanton approximation has the wrong recurrence pattern: its periods scale as \(t_H(Y)=O(\lambda^0)\) and amplitudes as \(e^{-1/\lambda^2}\), while the exact CFT is expected to have \(O(1)\) resurgences with \(t_H \sim e^{1/\lambda^2} t_H(Y)\); these errors cancel in the infinite-time average.
- For AdS black holes the mismatch parameter is \(\eta = ((d-3)r_0^2+(d-1)R^2)/((d-1)r_0^2+(d-3)R^2)\), generally \(O(1)\), maximal at the Hawking-Page transition; for \(d=3\) the asymptotic formula is exact, with agreement only at infinite temperature.
Methods
- Theoretical study combining AdS/CFT, semiclassical gravity, and quantum recurrence arguments; reviews Poincaré recurrence bounds, non-unitary evolution, and time-averaged normalized correlators.
- Computes recurrence indices from canonical and microcanonical correlators, then evaluates an instanton sum over Euclidean backgrounds \(X_\alpha\) sharing thermal boundary conditions.
- Applies the formalism to Schwarzschild black holes in a reflecting box and AdS\(_d\) black holes, including the \(d=3\) BTZ case, using saddle-point, near-horizon Rindler, and brick-wall comparisons.
Limitations
- The paper states that concrete AdS/CFT dual pairs restrict generality; extending the ideas to large black holes in general spacetimes is unclear, and the CFT state for small unstable AdS black holes has not been identified.
- The instanton approximation requires an appropriate discrete-spectrum background \(Y\), a condition not met in the Ramond-Ramond sector of BTZ black holes or in general AdS spaces at sufficiently high temperature.
- Evident from the text: the analysis is semiclassical and often order-of-magnitude; near-horizon damping estimates are not accurate at the Schwarzschild radius, and the brick-wall modification is ad hoc and inconsistent with the semiclassical expansion.
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- Findingreasoning
The product of the proposed resolution's time scale and amplitude respects the lower bound.
“although their product does conspire so as to respect the bound.”
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The Gaussian-noise damping factor removes all possible recurrences as time goes to infinity.
“a damping factor that eliminates all possible recurrences as t → ∞.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: The operator C is non-degenerate in the energy basis.
- Findingown data
The time scale supplied by the proposed resolution is much shorter than expected.
“The time scale it provides is much shorter than could be expected”
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In the semiclassical bulk approximation, the correlation functions in the presence of eternal black holes vanish.
“The correlators indeed vanish in a semiclassical bulk approximation.”
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“semiclassically, on the bulk side, the correlation function does decay to zero in the presence of a black hole and thus violates the bound.”
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- Findingown data
The amplitude supplied by the proposed resolution is much smaller than expected.
“the amplitude much smaller than could be expected”
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- Findingreasoning
For two-point functions on different thermo-field doubles, the time average L_LR is approximately exp(-K(β)), with K(β) = 2β(F(β) - F(β/2)) - S(β).
“L LR ∼ exp(-K(β)) , where K(β) = 2β (F (β) -F (β/2)) -S(β) ,”
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Poincaré recurrences can be absent in non-unitary systems even when the entropy is finite.
“we show that Poincaré recurrences can indeed be absent for non-unitary systems.i.e. a system with noncoherent quantum evolution [10] will show no recurrences despite having finite entropy.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [10] J.L.F. Barbón, 1999, Nucl. Phys. source
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A direct analysis of correlation functions in a black hole background yields L = 0 in perturbation theory.
“However, a direct analysis of correlation functions in the background of a black hole yields L = 0 in perturbation theory.”
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In Lorentzian signature, the wave functions on the exponential potential are Bessel functions.
“In lorentzian signature, the wave functions on the exponential potential are given by Bessel functions”
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For r near r0, the metric can be approximated by Rindler space with a pure exponential potential in (3.11).
“For r ≈ r 0 we can approximate the metric by Rindler space, with a pure exponential potential in (3.11).”
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The time averages L_αβ vanish identically for any black-hole background.
“At any rate, the time averages vanish identicaly for any black-hole background.”
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The Euclidean Rindler space near the horizon becomes a copy of flat R^d.
“the euclidean Rindler space in the vicinity of the horizon r ≈ r 0 becomes a copy of flat R d space:”
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The zero-time Green's functions G_α(0) are of order 1 in the semiclassical limit.
“The zero-time Green's functions G α (0) are of O(1) in the semiclassical limit.”
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The total Euclidean correlator is given by an average over the different backgrounds.
“The total euclidean correlator is then given by an average over the different backgrounds.”
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The total measure splits into perturbative measures around each background, with suppression by the classical Euclidean action of each background.
“In this situation the total measure dµ(φ, . ..) splits into the different perturbative measures dµ α around each background, dµ → α e -I cl (Xα) dµ α ,”
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On X, G_E can be written as a sum over n and ω of e^{2πin(τ−τ')/β} φ_ω(r,Ω) φ*_ω(r',Ω') divided by ω2 + 4π2n2/β2.
“Therefore, on X we can write G E (τ, τ ) = 1 β n ω e 2πin(τ -τ )/β φ ω (r, Ω) φ * ω (r , Ω ) ω 2 + 4π 2 n 2 /β 2 .”
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The Green's function G_E satisfies the same differential equation as the Hartle-Hawking Green's function when restricted to X.
“satisfies the same differential equation as the Hartle-Hawking Green's function (3.17), when restricted to X .”
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The final estimate is L_inst ≈ e^{−2ΔI} C_{Y/X}^2 L_Y.
“In this way we arrive at the final estimate: L inst ≈ e -2 ∆I C Y /X 2 • L Y ,”
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Near a non-degenerate horizon, the effective potential has the universal scaling V_eff ∝ exp(4πr*/β) as r* → -∞.
“Near a non-degenerate horizon, g(r 0 ) = 0, the effective potential shows the universal scaling V eff (r * ) ∝ e 4πr * /β , as r * → -∞”
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Perturbative corrections in the black hole background will not discretize the spectrum unless perturbation theory itself breaks down.
“Perturbative corrections in the black hole background are constructed in terms of the free Green's functions, and will not discretize the spectrum (unless perturbation theory itself breaks down.)”
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In the same approximation, the perturbative partition function Tr exp(-βH) is divergent.
“In the same approximation, the perturbative partition function Tr exp(-βH) that appears in the normalization of (3.2) is divergent.”
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Putting the system in a large box with a reflecting wall at finite radius does not discretize the spectrum because of the exponential tail.
“In particular, enclosing the system in a large box by placing a reflecting wall at large and finite r fails to discretize the spectrum, due to the exponential tail (3.11).”
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Anti-de Sitter spaces behave effectively as finite-volume cavities.
“we recover the known fact that AdS spaces behave effectively as finite-volume cavities.”
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For a bounded system with a discrete energy spectrum and unitary evolution, thermal dissipation cannot become complete at very long times.
“the thermal dissipation cannot be complete at very long times.”
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The vanishing of L is tied to the continuous spectrum of the perturbative Hamiltonian H = i∂/∂t.
“The vanishing of the recurrence index, L = 0, in the previous discussion is tied to the continuous spectrum of the perturbative hamiltonian H = i ∂/∂t.”
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The Heisenberg time is the smallest possible Poincaré time.
“the Heisenberg time is the smallest possible Poincaré time.”
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A perfectly unitary evolution can still fail to show Poincaré recurrences when the spectrum is continuous.
“one may have a perfectly unitary evolution, and still miss the Poincaré recurrences because the spectrum is continuous.”
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The numerical value of the unitarity-based bound comes from the holographic dual field theory.
“The value of the bound is obtained from the holographic dual field theory.”
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The absence of Poincaré recurrences in this black-hole case may be an artefact of the semiclassical approximation.
“Thus the absence of Poincaré recurrences in this case may be an artefact of the semiclassical approximation.”
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The continuous spectrum is a property of the bare horizon as described by General Relativity.
“This is a property of the “bare” horizon, as described by General Relativity, and could be modified by nonperturbative dynamical effects.”
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Such non-unitary systems can generically be modelled as ordinary quantum mechanics coupled to Gaussian random noise.
“It was shown in [14] that these systems can be generically modelled by ordinary quantum mechanics coupled to a gaussian random noise.”
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- Interpretationreasoning
In the free approximation, the frequency spectrum in the presence of horizons is continuous.
“The frequency spectrum in the presence of horizons is thus continuous in the free approximation.”
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The vanishing of the correlation functions is caused by the continuous energy spectrum that exists when event horizons are present.
“We trace the origin of their vanishing to the continuum energy spectrum in the presence of event horizons.”
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The infinite redshift of an event horizon allows a quantum field to accumulate infinitely many modes there at finite energy cost.
“the infinite redshift of an event horizon implies that a quantum field can accumulate an infinite number of modes there, with a finite cost of energy (c.f.[15]).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [15] W. Thirring
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- Interpretationreasoning
The expected recurrence index for black holes scales nonperturbatively as exp(-1/G_N).
“Thus, the expected recurrence index for black holes has a nonperturbative scaling with Newton's constant: L ∼ exp(-1/G N ).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: The asymptotic boundary conditions make the canonical ensemble stable, meaning the specific heat is positive.
- Interpretationreasoning
The time average L is bounded strictly above zero when the thermodynamic entropy is finite.
“Thus, L is bounded strictly above zero provided the thermodynamic entropy is finite.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: The quantity βΓ is finite in the thermodynamic or semiclassical limits.
- The authors state this as an assumption: The operators A and B have matrix elements around E(β) forming a band of width Γ/2 E(β), and the integrands can be approximated by their mean value in that band.
- Interpretationreasoning
The spectrum of positive real frequencies is continuous independently of the potential's behaviour away from the horizon.
“We see that the spectrum of positive real frequencies will be continuous, quite independently of the properties of the potential for r r 0 .”
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Giving the thermal gas background a role restores agreement with a time-averaged unitarity bound.
“We find that assigning a role to the thermal gas background, as suggested in the above work, does restore the compliance with a time-averaged unitarity bound.”
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“While it does lead to a result respecting a lower bound on a time averaged normalized correlation function”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] S.S. Gubser, 1998, Phys. Lett. source
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- Interpretationcitation
The large-time decay of the retarded correlators can be understood through complex frequencies, analogous to thermal quasinormal modes.
“Since tt > 0 in our Green's functions, they are actually retarded correlators, and the large-time decay can be understood in terms of complex frequencies, a thermal analog of the so-called “quasinormal modes” [9].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [9] E. Witten, 1998, Adv. Theor. Math. Phys. source
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The Poincaré patch of vacuum AdS has a continuous spectrum because r = 0 is a degenerate horizon.
“However, the Poincaré patch of vacuum AdS, with g(r) = r 2 /R 2 has continuous spectrum, as r = 0 is a degenerate horizon with g(0) = g (0) = 0.”
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The recurrence or Poincaré time scales as a double exponential in the entropy.
“Since N ∼ exp(2S), the recurrence or Poincaré time scales as a double exponential in the entropy.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: The N different frequencies ω_ij = E_i - E_j are rationally independent.
- Premisecitation
Hawking-type non-unitary time evolutions violate quantum coherence while preserving hermiticity, positivity and normalization of the density matrix.
“Time evolutions of this sort violate quantum coherence but preserve hermiticity, positivity and normalization of the density matrix.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [10] J.L.F. Barbón, 1999, Nucl. Phys. source
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- Interpretationreasoning
Within the perturbative formalism, L = 0 in the presence of static horizons.
“we will find L = 0 in the presence of static horizons, at least within the perturbative formalism sketched here.”
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For black holes, the bound should hold with β equal to the inverse Hawking temperature and S equal to the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy.
“In that case we expect the bound (2.22) to hold with β the inverse Hawking temperature and S(β) = A H /4G N the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: The asymptotic boundary conditions make the canonical ensemble stable, meaning the specific heat is positive.
- Interpretationreasoning
Poincaré recurrences can serve as a criterion for unitarity if the energy spectrum is genuinely discrete.
“This result implies that Poincaré recurrences may be used as a criterion for unitarity, provided the energy spectrum is truly discrete.”
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The denominator of (4.4) is dominated by the manifold with the largest partition function at each temperature.
“Hence, the denominator of (4.4) is dominated by the manifold with largest partition function at each temperature.”
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The background Y that dominates the numerator of (4.4) does not contain horizons.
“Hence, the background that dominates the numerator of (4.4), denoted Y , does not contain horizons.”
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The instanton approximation to L agrees exactly with bound (2.22) when X = Y, i.e. when the thermodynamical free energy is dominated by a thermal gas with no black holes.
“Hence, the instanton approximation to L agrees exactly with the bound (2.22) when X = Y , i.e. when the thermodynamical free energy is dominated by a thermal gas with no black holes.”
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Such modifications of the boundary conditions are not consistent with the systematics of the semiclassical expansion.
“Of course, such modifications of the boundary conditions are not consistent with the systematics of the semiclassical expansion.”
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Equations (3.31) and (3.32) should be viewed only as order-of-magnitude estimates of the true black hole's damping frequencies.
“It should be noted however that (3.31), (3.32) must be viewed only as order-of-magnitude estimates of the true black hole's damping frequencies.”
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The absence of recurrences is traced to the topological properties of the Euclidean manifold X.
“We have traced the absence of recurrences to the peculiar topological properties of the euclidean manifold X.”
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The final result is the Green's function of the Laplacian on R^d, i.e. the Hartle-Hawking Euclidean Green's function.
“The final result is the Green's function of the laplacian on R d , i.e. the Hartle-Hawking euclidean Green's function.”
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This estimate yields L ∼ exp(−A_H/4G_N) for a system whose entropy is dominated by a black hole phase.
“This estimate yields L ∼ exp(-A H /4G N ) for a system whose entropy is dominated by a black hole phase.”
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Because the Rindler approximation treats the horizon as flat R^d, the results are not accurate on scales of the Schwarzschild radius, which can be comparable to |Im ω|^{-1}.
“Since the Rindler approximation regards the horizon as flat R d , results are not accurate on scales of the Schwarzschild radius, which can be of the same order of magnitude as | Im ω | -1 .”
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Because (3.17) and (3.25) satisfy the same differential equation, G_E is expected to give exactly the Hartle-Hawking Green's function on X when extended by continuity from X.
“Since (3.17) and (3.25) satisfy the same differential equation, we expect that G E gives exactly the Hartle-Hawking Green's function on X, when extended by continuity from X .”
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Nonperturbative effects of order e^{−1/G_N} must effectively discretize the energy spectrum to capture the recurrences.
“Nonperturbative effects of O(e -1/G N ) arising in the semiclassical expansion must effectively discretize the energy spectrum in order to capture the phenomenon of the recurrences.”
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The topology makes the analytic continuation to real time blind to the spacing of black hole energy levels.
“At the same time, it renders the analytic continuation to real time completely blind to the spacing of black hole energy levels.”
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If the divergent entropy is equated with the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy, the phenomenological parameter ε is adjusted a posteriori.
“If this is equated with the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy, we have an a posteriori adjustment of the phenomenological parameter, ε.”
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For systems with discrete spectrum, the recurrence index is estimated as L ∼ exp(−S).
“The recurrence index was estimated as L ∼ exp(-S) for systems with discrete spectrum.”
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The recurrence index L behaves quite differently from the partition function Z(β).
“In this respect, the recurrence index L seems to behave quite differently from the partition function Z(β).”
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Applying the general discussion of section 2 gives L_Y ∼ exp(−S(Y)).
“Applying the general discussion of section 2 we obtain L Y ∼ exp(-S(Y )).”
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The details of unitary time evolution can only be retrieved by new nonperturbative effects.
“implies that the details of unitary time evolution can only be retrieved by new nonperturbative effects.”
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The special topology guarantees the emergence of a classical contribution to the entropy.
“This special topology guarantees the emergence of a classical contribution to the entropy [17].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [17] G. 't Hooft, 1985, Nucl. Phys. source
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Bulk correlation functions built from local bulk operators can be interpreted as correlators of spatially nonlocal operators in the CFT.
“Correlation functions such as (3.16), in terms of local operators in the bulk, can be interpreted as correlators of spatially nonlocal operators in the CFT.”
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By explicit calculation, a real-time thermal correlator with continuous spectrum at the horizon is the analytic continuation of a Euclidean correlator that is smooth near r = r0.
“Thus, we have shown by explicit calculation that a real-time thermal correlator with continuous spectrum at the horizon is the analytic continuation of an euclidean correlator that is perfectly smooth in the vicinity of r = r 0 .”
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This conclusion holds for any static horizon, including de Sitter in the static patch.
“This conclusion holds for any static horizon, including de Sitter in the static patch”
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The phenomenon is traced to a subtlety in the analytic continuation from the Euclidean path integral to the Lorentzian correlator, originating from the peculiar topology of the Euclidean black hole manifold X.
“This phenomenon can be traced back to a subtlety in the analytic continuation from (3.16) to (3.2), which in turn originates on the peculiar topology of the euclidean black hole manifold X.”
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Restoration of the recurrences depends on dynamical effects that change the topology of X.
“Hence, the restoration of the recurrences depends on dynamical effects that change the topology of X.”
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FindingreasoningThe Euclidean time direction is isometric, so G_E depends only on Δτ.
“The euclidean time direction in (3.13) is isometric, and G E (τ, τ ) is only a function of ∆τ = ττ .”
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Findingnone givenThe Euclidean cutoff manifold X_ε has cylindrical topology and no classical entropy of Hawking-Gibbons type.
“The euclidean cutoff manifold X ε has now cylindrical topology and no classical entropy of Hawking-Gibbons type.”
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FindingreasoningThe eigenvalue problem for K_X has eigenvalues λ_nω = 4π2n2/β2 + ω2 and eigenfunctions proportional to e^{2πiτ/β} φ_ω(r,Ω).
“λ n,ω = 4π 2 n 2 β 2 + ω 2 , ψ n,ω (τ, r, Ω) = 1 √ β e 2πiτ /β φ ω (r, Ω) ,”
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FindingreasoningStarting from (3.25), G_E has an explicit representation as a continuous frequency integral.
“Starting from (3.25) we have the explicit representation as a continuous frequency integral”
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Findingnone givenThe leading contribution to the entropy of X_ε arises at one-loop level and diverges as S(X_ε) ∼ A_H/ε^{d−2}.
“The leading contribution to the entropy arises at one-loop level and diverges as S(X ε ) ∼ A H /ε d-2 .”
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FindingreasoningThe reflecting brick-wall boundary condition makes the domain of r* compact and the Schrödinger problem yields a discrete frequency spectrum.
“This reflecting boundary condition makes the domain of r * compact, and the Schrödinger problem (3.9) yields a discrete frequency spectrum.”
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FindingreasoningAt large Δt, the real-time correlator vanishes exponentially and shows no Poincaré recurrences.
“Hence, at large ∆t the real-time correlator vanishes exponentially and shows no Poincaré recurrences.”
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InterpretationreasoningThe spectrum is discrete in pure AdS and continuous in the AdS black hole.
“The spectrum is thus discrete in pure AdS, and continuous in the AdS black hole.”
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InterpretationreasoningA semiclassical black hole reproduces coarse-grained properties of the system, but resolving the finer-grained information-loss problem may require additional dynamical features of the horizon.
“It is suggested that, while a semiclassical black hole does reproduce faithfully “coarse grained” properties of the system, additional dynamical features of the horizon may be necessary to resolve a finer grained informationloss problem.”
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InterpretationreasoningA continuous spectrum, such as that of an unbounded system, implies L = 0 and no Poincaré recurrences.
“This shows that a continuous spectrum (such as that of an unbounded system) implies L = 0 and no Poincaré recurrences.”
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Interpretationnone givenTwo very long time scales are relevant: one belongs to the black hole and the other to a thermal gas in the vacuum background.
“We elaborate on the two very long time scales involved: one associated with the black hole and the other with a thermal gas in the vacuum background.”
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InterpretationreasoningSystems with a continuous spectrum have strictly infinite total entropy, and both their Heisenberg and Poincaré times are infinite.
“Systems with continuous spectrum have strictly infinite total entropy, and both Heisenberg and Poincaré times are infinite.”
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InterpretationreasoningPerturbative correlation functions should show a continuous excitation spectrum and yield L = 0.
“Hence, perturbative correlation functions should reflect a continuous spectrum of excitations and produce L = 0.”
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Premisenone givenA more rigorous definition of thermal correlation functions is obtained by analytic continuation from Euclidean correlation functions.
“A more rigorous definition of thermal correlation functions is by analytic continuation from euclidean correlation functions.”
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PremisecitationThe thermal partition function Z(β) = exp(-I(X)) is interpreted as the canonical free energy and determines thermodynamic functions, including the correct black-hole entropy.
“The thermal partition function is given by Z(β) = exp(-I(X)), where I(X) is the euclidean effective action evaluated on X.As a function of β, it is interpreted as the canonical free energy, and determines all thermodynamic functions, including the correct black-hole entropy [17]:”
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PremisecitationIf correlation functions in eternal black hole backgrounds vanished, a unitarity-based bound would be violated.
“It was pointed out by Maldacena [2] that their vanishing would lead to a violation of a unitarity-based bound.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] S.S. Gubser, 1998, Phys. Lett. source
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PremisecitationThe Euclidean approach to gravitational thermodynamics has been shown to fit within the AdS/CFT correspondence.
“Even at a nonperturbative level, the euclidean approach to gravitational thermodynamics has been shown to integrate nicely within the AdS/CFT correspondence [7].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [7] N. Goheer, 2003, J. High Energy Phys. source
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Interpretationown dataAdditional configurations beyond the proposed thermal-gas/topological-diversity resolution are required to account for the expected time dependence and size of Poincaré recurrences.
“We also find that additional configurations are needed to explain the expected time dependence of the Poincaré recurrences and their magnitude.”
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InterpretationreasoningThe microcanonical correlation function is quasiperiodic and returns arbitrarily close to its initial value over recurrence-time periods.
“In fact, G E (t) as defined by (2.6) is a quasiperiodic function of time; despite thermal damping, it returns arbitrarily close to the initial value over periods of the order of the recurrence time.”
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InterpretationcitationLarge-scale fluctuations of the gravitational background that change the global topology of (3.13) might be strong enough.
“Large-scale fluctuations of the gravitational background that change the global topology of (3.13) might be strong enough [2].”
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Study design and conductreasoningThe continuity extension step is ambiguous because the operator K_X is not well defined at r = r0.
“This last step is not completely free of ambiguities, since the operator K X itself is not well defined at r = r 0 .”
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Interpretationnone givenThe Euclidean manifold X is smooth at r = r0, and the spectrum of K_X becomes discrete once a large-volume cutoff is imposed.
“The manifold X is smooth at r = r 0 and the spectrum of K X becomes discrete once we impose a large-volume cutoff.”
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InterpretationreasoningThe Euclidean time orbits are contractible on X, and the horizon r = r0 is a singularity of the foliation because it is invariant under τ translations.
“However, the euclidean time orbits are contractible on X, and the horizon r = r 0 is a singularity of the folliation, because it is invariant under translations of τ .”
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PremisecitationThe continuous-spectrum disease has been linked to divergences in black hole entropy and their renormalization.
“The “disease” of the continuous spectrum has been tied to the phenomenon of divergences in the calculation of black hole entropy [15] and the question of their renormalization [19].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [15] W. Thirring
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- cites [19] G.W. Gibbons, 1977, Phys. Rev. source
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InterpretationreasoningRemoving the submanifold at r = r0 gives a manifold with a smooth time foliation, differing from X by a set of measure zero, with different topology and a noncompact boundary.
“Then the manifold X ≡ X -{r = r 0 } has a smooth time folliation and differs from X by a set of measure zero.However, it has different topology from X and the “boundary” at r = r 0 is non-compact.”
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InterpretationreasoningThe characteristic time scales are independent of the non-zero mass and are controlled by the Hawking temperature of the black hole.
“We see that the characteristic time scales are independent of the non-zero mass and are controlled by the Hawking temperature of the black hole.”
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The authors state this as an assumption.
The asymptotic boundary conditions make the canonical ensemble stable, meaning the specific heat is positive.
“We shall assume that the asymptotic boundary conditions ensure the stability of the canonical ensemble, in the sense that the specific heat is positive: C V > 0.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
The N different frequencies ω_ij = E_i - E_j are rationally independent.
“let us assume that we have N different frequencies ω ij = E i -E j that are rationally independent.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
The operator C is non-degenerate in the energy basis.
“We also assume that the operator C is non-degenerate in the energy basis.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
The quantity βΓ is finite in the thermodynamic or semiclassical limits.
“a quantity that we assume finite in the thermodynamical or semiclassical limits.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
The operators A and B have matrix elements around E(β) forming a band of width Γ/2 E(β), and the integrands can be approximated by their mean value in that band.
“Now let us assume that the operators A and B have matrix elements around E(β) consisting of a band of width Γ/2 E(β) and approximate the integrands by their mean value within this band.”
The paper relies on this without support.
For a bounded gravitating system, black holes dominate the thermal ensemble at high energies.
“For a bounded gravitating system, black holes should dominate the thermal ensemble at high energies.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
A quantum mechanical description of a Schwarzschild black hole in a finite box exists.
“However, we can assume that such a quantum mechanical description exists”
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Each contradiction between two passages listed here was confirmed by an independent check.
The high-temperature expansion disagrees with the stated formula for η
MinorExpanding (4.18) using (4.17) gives a coefficient of (d−2)/(4π2) for (β/R)2, rather than 1/[2π2(d−1)] as printed in (4.19). For d = 4, these are 1/(2π2) and 1/(6π2), respectively.
“η = d -3 d -1 + 1 2π 2 (d -1) β R 2 + O β 4 R 4 . (4.19)”
“η = (d -3)r 2 0 + (d -1) R 2 (d -1) r 2 0 + (d -3)R 2 . (4.18)”
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- Authors
- Barbón, J. L. F., & Rabinovici, E.
- Affiliations
- European Organization for Nuclear Research (CH)
- Hebrew University of Jerusalem (IL)
- Venue
- Journal of High Energy Physics
- Published
- 2003-11-21
- Volume
- 2003
- Issue
- 11
- Pages
- 047-047
- ISSN
- 1029-8479 (ISSN-L)
- OpenAlex
- W2154320483
- Cited by
- 113
- References
- 44
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- 2025: 4 · 2024: 2 · 2023: 8 · 2022: 8 · 2021: 6 · 2020: 2 · 2019: 5 · 2018: 6 · 2017: 8 · 2016: 8 · 2015: 7 · 2014: 6 · 2013: 3 · 2012: 2
- FWCI
- 4.26
- Type
- journal article
- Language
- en
- Open access
- bronze
- doi.org
- Locations
- Journal of High Energy Physics (publishedVersion)
- arXiv (Cornell University) (submittedVersion)
- CERN Document Server (European Organization for Nuclear Research) (submittedVersion)
- arXiv (Cornell University)
- Funders
- National Science Foundation
- Topics
- Physical Sciences › Physics and Astronomy › Nuclear and High Energy Physics › Black Holes and Theoretical Physics
- Physical Sciences › Physics and Astronomy › Statistical and Nonlinear Physics › Noncommutative and Quantum Gravity Theories
- Physical Sciences › Physics and Astronomy › Atomic and Molecular Physics, and Optics › Quantum Electrodynamics and Casimir Effect
- Keywords
- eternal black holes, correlation functions, unitary limit, semiclassical black holes, event horizon, Poincaré recurrence, stretched horizon, information loss, black hole thermodynamics
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