The Search for Solutions to Mysterious Anomalies in the Geologic Column
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There is convincing evidence that soft tissue and other biomolecules have survived from the Mesozoic to the present, possibly because of their interaction with blood iron and/or carbonate adsorption.Here we present the results of investigations showing that ancient biomolecules and their decay products contain significantly higher percent Modern carbon (pMC = 14 C/ 12 C) values than diamond and coal.South African diamonds yielded pMC values of from 0.16 to 0.11 pMC, or ages of 52,000 to 55,000 Carbon-14 years before present ( 14 C years BP) [Baumgardner et al., 2003].Ten coal specimens from the United States from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata were 0.33 to 0.16 pMC, or 46,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP.By comparison, our field and lab study of ten dinosaurs from Texas to Alaska plus China yielded much higher pMC's of 6.50 to 0.61, or 22,000 to 41,000 14 C years BP after pretreatment to remove old and modern soil contaminants.The evidence for endogenous pMC was further enhanced by the δ 13 C range of -20.1 to -23.8 for collagen, -16.6 to -28.4 for bulk organic, and -3.1 to -9.1 for CO3 fractions.This data clarifies why such biomolecules have persisted.These unexpected results call for replication to determine whether they are anomalous.If not, the implication is that a portion of the geological time scale should be condensed, indicating a higher risk to Earth of meteorite impact due to greater frequency.We recommend systematic 14 C dating of similar samples taken from different parts of the entire geologic column.
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Bacteria and bacterial products, postulated as a reason for the 24,600 RC year age for the mosasaur from Belgium, would have been removed by ABA pretreatment used by Lund University.
“Bacteria and bacterial products, postulated as a reason for the 24,600 RC year age for the mosasaur from Belgium [Lindgren et al., [2011], would have been removed by ABA pretreatment used by Lund University, as noted in the study.”
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The Methods (14C analysis; page unavailable) say the acid-alkali-acid pretreatment was used to remove absorbed carbonates and humic acids, not that it removed bacteria or their products. The Results (Rationale for excluding fungal growth and animal glue; page unavailable) nevertheless attribute the carbon yielding the 24,600 BP age most likely to bacterial activity, contrary to the claim that pretreatment would have removed its contribution. (LLM, conf=0.87)
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[34] showed that sediments formed simultaneously by size and density in moving waters spontaneously in the disastrous Bijou Flood in Colorado of 1965.
“[34] showed that sediments formed simultaneously by size and density in moving waters spontaneously in the disastrous Bijou Flood in Colorado of 1965.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim1 of 1 sources checked- cites [34] 34. Bird MI, Ayliffe LK, Fifield LK, Turney CSM, Cresswell RG, et al. (1999) Radiocarbon dating of "old" charcoal using a wet oxidation, stepped-combustion procedure. Radiocarbon 41: 127-140. source
The Samples and Pretreatment sections discuss charcoal used for radiocarbon dating and laboratory removal of mineral impurities. Searches for the 1965 Bijou Flood and for sediment sorting by size and density found no passage in our copy addressing either claim. (LLM, conf=0.77)
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Sedimentology analysis and reconstruction of sedimentation conditions of the Tonto Group [Grand Canyon] reveals that deposits of different stratigraphic sub-divisions were formed simultaneously in different litho-dynamical zones of the Cambrian paleobasin.
“Sedimentology analysis and reconstruction of sedimentation conditions of the Tonto Group [Grand Canyon] reveals that deposits of different stratigraphic sub-divisions were formed simultaneously in different litho-dynamical zones of the Cambrian paleobasin.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim1 of 1 sources checked- cites [34] 34. Bird MI, Ayliffe LK, Fifield LK, Turney CSM, Cresswell RG, et al. (1999) Radiocarbon dating of "old" charcoal using a wet oxidation, stepped-combustion procedure. Radiocarbon 41: 127-140. source
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The Hadrosaur femur collagen yielded a pMC of 5.59, or 23,170 ± 170 14C years BP.
“and the latter a pMC of 5.59, or 23,170± 170 14 C years BP.”
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Ancient biomolecules and their decay products contain significantly higher percent Modern carbon (pMC) values than diamond and coal.
“Here we present the results of investigations showing that ancient biomolecules and their decay products contain significantly higher percent Modern carbon (pMC = 14 C/ 12 C) values than diamond and coal.”
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Ten dinosaurs from Texas to Alaska plus China yielded pMC values of 6.50 to 0.61, or 22,000 to 41,000 14C years BP after pretreatment to remove old and modern soil contaminants.
“By comparison, our field and lab study of ten dinosaurs from Texas to Alaska plus China yielded much higher pMC's of 6.50 to 0.61, or 22,000 to 41,000 14 C years BP after pretreatment to remove old and modern soil contaminants.”
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The Triceratops femur collagen yielded a pMC of 2.16, or 30,890 ± 200 14C years BP.
“with the former yielding a pMC of 2.16, or 30,890 ± 200 14 C years BP”
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Samples from a total of ten dinosaurs 14C dated from Texas, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, and Alaska produced pMC values of 5.7 to 0.61, or 23,000 to 41,000 14C years BP.
“Samples from a total of ten dinosaurs have been 14 C dated from Texas, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, and Alaska, producing pMC's of 5.7 to 0.61 (23,000 to 41,000 14 C years BP), as shown in Table 1”
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The collagen samples showed a tighter cluster of δ13C values closer to expected plant organics, ranging from -20.1 to -23.8 per mil.
“The collagen samples showed an even tighter cluster of δ 13 C values closer to expected plant organics, ranging from -20.1 to -23.8 per mil.”
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Amber found in the same Cretaceous clay matrix as the triceratops produced the youngest of the three 14C ages for amber.
“Amber found in the same Cretaceous clay matrix as the triceratops produced the youngest of the three 14 C ages for amber in Table 2.”
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The range of 14C ages for 363 mammoth samples (pMC 33 to 0.16, or 9,000 to 52,000 14C years BP) is similar to that of samples from eleven dinosaurs (pMC 6.5 to 0.61, or 22,000 to 41,000 14C years BP).
“The range of 14 C ages for 363 mammoth samples (pMC 33 to 0.16, or 9,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP) is similar to that of samples from eleven dinosaurs (pMC 6.5 to 0.61, or 22,000 to 41,000 14 C years BP).”
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The paper found organic δ13C values near the expected range for most C3 plants as a consequence of photosynthesis (-24 to -34 per mil).
“We also found organic δ 13 C values near the expected range for most C3 plants as a consequence of photosynthesis (-24 to -34 per mil).”
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All three amber specimens fall in the same 14C range as coal from Europe and ten samples of American coal.
“The results shown in Table 2 #12 indicate that all three specimens fall in the same range as coal from Europe (Table 2 #11) and ten samples of American coal.”
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Figure 1 shows an average age of these mammoths as 19,000 14C years BP for those dated to <40,000 14C years BP.
“Figure 1 shows an average age of these mammoths as 19,000 14 C years BP for those dated to <40,000 14 C years BP.”
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The more enriched organic δ13C values came from collagen and bulk organic fractions of whole bone (-15.7 to -18.4 per mil).
“The more enriched organic δ 13 C values came from collagen and bulk organic fractions of whole bone (-15.7 to -18.4 per mil).”
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The range of 14C ages for fossil wood from Cretaceous and Jurassic strata is 0.96 to 0.14 pMC, or 37,000 to 52,000 14C years BP.
“The range of 14 C ages for fossil wood (Table 2) from Cretaceous and Jurassic strata is 0.96 to 0.14 pMC, or 37,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP.”
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Some bioapatite ages were older than bulk bone or collagen in the same bone, as with Triceratops #2, Triceratops #3, and Hadrosaur #2.
“Note that some bioapatite ages were older than bulk bone or collagen in the same bone, as with Triceratops #2 (12 and 13), Triceratops #3 (14 and 15), and Hadrosaur #2 (18 and 20) in Table 1.”
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Whether the samples were extracted from the same bone or from different parts of the same dinosaur, the authors obtained reproducible and concordant pMC's.
“Whether the samples were extracted from the same bone or from different parts of the same dinosaur, we obtained reproducible and concordant pMC's.”
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Using three ABA pretreatments of the same bone material did not result in reduction of the ages for even severely degraded bone material.
“Using three ABA pretreatments of the same bone material did not result in reduction of the ages for even severely degraded bone material.”
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PVC-coated specimens tended to give false older ages.
“However, PVC-coated specimens tended to give false older ages.”
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It is not unusual to 14C-date such a low amount of collagen, provided other bone fractions are tested and concordant ages are obtained.
“It is not unusual to 14 C-date such a low amount of collagen, provided other bone fractions are tested and concordant ages are obtained, as described by [6].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [6] 6. Schweitzer MH, Wittmeyer JL, Horner JR, Toporski JK (2005) Soft-Tissue Vessels and Cellular Preservation in Tyrannosaurus rex. Science 307: 1952-1955 . source
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AMS 14C dating of the mosasaur at Lund University yielded a pMC of 4.68, or 24,600 14C years BP.
“Accelerator Mass Spectrometer (AMS) 14 C dating at Lund University, Sweden, yielded a pMC of 4.68 (24,600 14 C years BP).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] 2. strata by C. Baugh and B. Dunkel; identified by C. Baugh in 2014. Psittacosaurus, a small ceratopsian dinosaur whose name means "parrot lizard". The tail bone is from the Gobi Desert, donated by Mt. Blanco Museum. Mosasaur -see Lindgren et al. 2011.
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A study by [2] discovered collagen in a marine reptile, a mosasaur.
“One such study by [2] discovered collagen in a marine reptile, a mosasaur.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] 2. strata by C. Baugh and B. Dunkel; identified by C. Baugh in 2014. Psittacosaurus, a small ceratopsian dinosaur whose name means "parrot lizard". The tail bone is from the Gobi Desert, donated by Mt. Blanco Museum. Mosasaur -see Lindgren et al. 2011.
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Further studies confirmed that collagenous material was endogenous in more than just the Tyrannosaurus rex femur.
“Further studies of other fossils confirmed that collagenous material was indeed endogenous in more than just the Tyrannosaurus rex femur.”
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South African diamonds yielded pMC values of 0.16 to 0.11, corresponding to ages of 52,000 to 55,000 14C years BP.
“South African diamonds yielded pMC values of from 0.16 to 0.11 pMC, or ages of 52,000 to 55,000 Carbon-14 years before present ( 14 C years BP) [Baumgardner et al., 2003].”
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Ten coal specimens from the United States from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata yielded pMC values of 0.33 to 0.16, or 46,000 to 52,000 14C years BP.
“Ten coal specimens from the United States from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata were 0.33 to 0.16 pMC, or 46,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP.”
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Flexible soft tissue was reported in a Tyrannosaurus rex dinosaur femur bone in 2005.
“In 2005, flexible soft tissue was reported in a Tyrannosaurus rex dinosaur femur bone [3], [4].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [3] 3. GX is Geochron Labs, Cambrdge, MA; AA is the University of Arizona, Tuscon, AZ; UG is the University of Georgia, Athens, GA; KIA is Christian Albrechts Universität, Kiel, Germany; AMS is Accelerator Mass Spectrometry; Beta is the conventional method of counting Beta decay particles; Bio is the carbonate fraction of bioapatite. Bow is the bulk organic fraction of whole bone; Col is the collagen fraction; ext and w are charred exterior and whole bone fragments, respectively; Hum is humic acid. c) Weight of samples: Sample size sent to RC lab, ≈ 170 g as required by Geochron in 1990 for GX-151
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- cites [4] 4. Baumgardner JR, Humphreys DR, Snelling AA, Austin SA (2003) The Enigma of Ubiquity of 14 C in Organic Samples Older Than 100 ka. AGU Fall Meeting Abstracts, abstract #V32C-1045.
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Table 3, concerned with δ13C, supports the reliability of the 14C ages.
“Table 3 is concerned with δ 13 C, and supports the reliability of the 14 C ages.”
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Even if cyanobacteria were present on the mosasaur bone, they would likely be contemporaneous with the mosasaur, i.e., Cretaceous.
“However, even if cyanobacteria were present, they would likely be contemporaneous with the mosasaur upon whose bones they fed, i.e.Cretaceous.”
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Thirteen diamond samples from Brazil yielded pMC values of 0.026 to 0.005, or 14C ages of 66,500 to 80,000 14C years BP.
“Thirteen diamond samples from Brazil yielded pMC's of 0.026 to 0.005, or 14 C ages of 66,500 to 80,000 14 C years BP [10].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [10] 10. Arslanov Kh A, Svezhentsev Yu S (1993) An improved method for radiocarbon dating fossil bones. Radiocarbon 35: 387-391. source
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Neanderthal fossils throughout Europe and Asia have been radiocarbon dated.
“Neanderthal fossils throughout Europe and Asia have been radiocarbon dated [16], [17].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [16] 16. Stuckenrath R, Mielke JE (1972) Smithsonian Institution Radiocarbon Measurements VII. Radiocarbon 14: 401-412.
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- cites [17] 17. Berger R, Libby W F (1968) UCLA Radiocarbon Dates VIII. Radiocarbon 10(2): 402-416. source
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The coal and South African diamond dates are in the range considered to be at the limit of AMS reliability.
“These dates are in the range considered to be at the limit of AMS reliability.”
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Two samples from a tamarack wood tree branch at 122 m depth were radiocarbon dated to pMC 4.2 and 2.6, or 25,500 ± 1000 and 29,200 ± 2000 14C years BP.
“Two samples from a tree branch of tamarack wood from 122 m depth were radiocarbon dated to a pMC of 4.2 and 2.6, or 25,500 ± 1000 and 29,200 ± 2000 14 C years BP, [11]”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [11] 11. McManamon FP (2004) NPS Archeology Program: Kennewick Man. Memorandum from the United States Department of the Interior, National Park Service. source
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Coals from various locations in the United States, as reported by [1], yielded pMC values of 0.33 to 0.11, or about 45,000 to 55,000 14C years BP.
“Coals from various locations in the United States, as reported by [1], yielded pMC values of 0.33 to 0.11 (~45,000 to 55,000 14 C years BP).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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[20] found nitrogen content in 24 samples of bones from various species of dinosaurs in the Late Cretaceous Judith River Formation in Alberta, Canada, that was much higher than the nitrogen content of any of the paper's dinosaur bones.
“[20] found nitrogen content in 24 samples of bones from various species of dinosaurs found in the Late Cretaceous Judith River Formation in Alberta, Canada that was much higher than the nitrogen content of any of our dinosaur bones.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [20] 20. Rink WJ, Schwarcz HP, Valoch K, Seitl L, Stringer CB (1996) ESR Dating of Micoquian Industry and Neanderthal Remains at Kulna Cave, Czech Republic. Journal of Archaeological Science 23: 889-901. source
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The range of pMC values for ten saber tooth tigers from La Brea Tar Pits, pretreated to remove tar, is 9.4 to 3.1, or 12,000 to 28,000 years.
“The range of pMC's for ten saber tooth tigers from La Brea Tar Pits, pretreated to remove tar, is 9.4 to 3.1 (12,000 to 28,000 year range) [14].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [14] 14. Sheppard JC, Chatters RM (1976) Washington State University Natural Radiocarbon Measurements II. Radiocarbon 18: 140-149. source
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A mammoth burial site in Hot Springs, South Dakota, containing remains of 50 animals yielded calcium carbonate from bioapatite with 3.9 pMC, or an age of 26,000 14C years BP.
“Only the calcium carbonate from bioapatite remained for 14 C dating; it yielded 3.9 pMC, or an age of 26,000 14 C years BP [19].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [19] 19. Zorich Z (2010) Should We Clone Neanderthals?. Archaeology 63: 34-41.
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A well-preserved mosasaur humerus found in Belgian chalk beds yielded 0.25% carbon content and a pMC of 4.68, corresponding to 24,600 14C years BP.
“A well-preserved mosasaur humerus found in Belgian chalk beds yielded 0.25% carbon content and a pMC of 4.68, which corresponds to an age of 24,600 14 C years BP [2]”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] 2. strata by C. Baugh and B. Dunkel; identified by C. Baugh in 2014. Psittacosaurus, a small ceratopsian dinosaur whose name means "parrot lizard". The tail bone is from the Gobi Desert, donated by Mt. Blanco Museum. Mosasaur -see Lindgren et al. 2011.
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The bioapatite δ13C values were in the expected range for carbonate minerals derived from atmospheric carbon dioxide, which contains δ13C values around -7.0 per mil.
“The bioapatite values were in the expected range for carbonate minerals derived from atmospheric carbon dioxide, which contains δ 13 C values around -7.0 per mil.”
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Since collagen holds over 95% of the nitrogen in bones, the nitrogen data suggest the presence of a significant amount of collagen in the Canadian dinosaur bones.
“Since collagen holds over 95% of the nitrogen in bones [25], this suggests the presence of a significant amount of collagen in the Canadian dinosaur bones.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [25] 25. Cherkinsky A (2009) Can we get a good radiocarbon aged from "Bad Bone?" Determining the reliability of radiocarbon age from bioapatite. Radiocarbon 51: 647-655. source
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Another unfossilized wood sample from 143 m depth gave a pMC of 0.43, or an age of >43,300 14C years BP.
“Another unfossilized wood sample from 143 m depth gave a pMC of 0.43, or an age of >43,300 14 C years BP using β-scintillation counting [12].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [12] 12. Dawson JW (1846) Notice of some Fossils found in the Coal Formation of Nova Scotia. Quarterly J. Geol. London 2: 132-136.
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[18] found significant nitrogen content in well preserved bones of 42 Cretaceous species, including dinosaurs, in Alberta, Canada.
“As noted in section 2.3, [18] found significant nitrogen content in well preserved bones of 42 Cretaceous species, including dinosaurs, in Alberta, Canada.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [18] 18. Harrington CR, Morlan RE (2002) Evidence for Human Modification of a late PleistoceneBison from the Klondike District, Yukon Territory, Canada. Arctic. Inst. N. Am. 55: 143-147.
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The AMS determinations for coals yielded remarkably similar values of 0.26 pMC for the Eocene, 0.21 for the Cretaceous, and 0.27 for the Pennsylvanian samples.
““Averaged over geological interval, the AMS determinations yielded remarkably similar values of 0.26 pMC for the Eocene, 0.21 for the Cretaceous and 0.27 for the Pennsylvanian samples.””
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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Diamonds from South Africa yielded lesser amounts of pMC ranging from 0.15 to 0.1, or about 52,000 to 55,000 14C years BP.
“Diamonds from South Africa, on the other hand, yielded lesser amounts of pMC ranging from 0.15 to 0.1 (~52,000 to 55,000 14 C years BP).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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The soft tissue collagen fraction of a wooly rhinoceros bone from Ukraine yielded a pMC of 5.56, or 23,235 ± 775 14C years BP.
“The “soft tissue” collagen fraction of a bone sample from a Coelodonta antiquitatais (wooly rhinoceros), found in Ukraine in 1929 yielded a pMC of 5.56, or 23,235 ± 775 14 C years BP”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [13] 13. Taylor RE, Southon J (2007) Use of natural diamonds to monitor 14 C AMS instrument backgrounds. Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research B 259: 282-287. source
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Living plants in Montezuma Well in Arizona yielded pMC values of 12.1 to 5.1, or 17,000 to 24,000 14C years BP.
“An example of this was found in living plants in Montezuma Well in Arizona, where the plants yielded pMC's of 12.1 to 5.1 (17,000 to 24,000 14 C years BP) [27].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [27] 27. Kutschera, W. (2001), 4.4 Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Otzi with accelerator mass spectrometry, VERA Laboratory, Institute for Isotopic Research and Nuclear Physics, University of Vienna, pp. 1-9.
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Other diamonds exhibited a range of 68.1 ± 1.2 ka to 80.0 ± 1.1 ka.
“However, the other diamonds exhibited a range of 68.1 + 1.2 ka to 80.0 + 1.1 ka.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [8] 8. Holzschuh J, Pontcharra J de, Miller H (2012) Recent C-14 dating of fossils including dinosaur bone collagen. Are theresults a confirmation of rapid formation of the geologic column as modern sedimentology studies have predicted?. In: von Brandenstein-Zeppelin AG, von Stockhausen A (eds.). Evolution Theory and the Sciences: A Critical Examination. Pg 295-321, Gerhard Hess Verlag, Bad Schussenried, Germany.
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The pMC concordance between fractions from the same dinosaur indicates that almost all contaminants were removed by the pretreatment procedures used.
“As shown in Figure 7, the pMC concordance between fractions from the same dinosaur (six examples are circled) indicates that almost all contaminants were removed by the pretreatment procedures used.”
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The diverse evidence provides a simple explanation for the survival of soft tissue and bio-molecules in some dinosaur fossils, beyond any possible contribution of biofilm and blood iron.
“The diverse evidence provides a simple explanation for the survival of soft tissue and bio-molecules in some dinosaur fossils, beyond any possible contribution of biofilm and blood iron.”
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Flume experiments show that mudstones can form in moving waters.
“However, flume experiments show that mudstones can form in moving waters [39].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [39] 39. Makse HA, Havlin S, King PR, Stanley HE (1997), Spontaneous stratification in granular mixtures, Nature. 386: 379-382. source
- Study design and conductown data
Eight dinosaurs yielded reproducible RC ages well within the limits of the AMS and Beta systems from in-situ biological carbonate fraction extracted with strong but diluted HCl under vacuum after pretreatment with acetic acid to remove burial carbonate.
“In-situ biological carbonate fraction was extracted with strong but diluted HCl under vacuum after pretreatment with Acetic acid to remove burial carbonate, and eight dinosaurs yielded reproducible RC ages well within the limits of the AMS and Beta systems.”
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The concordance of pMC's among the dinosaur bones dated supports the view that the 14C ages were not much affected by bioapatite carbon exchange.
“This view is supported by the concordance of pMC's among the dinosaur bones we dated, as shown in Figure 7, where we compare the percent of Modern 14 C (pMC) in 23 samples of dinosaur bone fractions extracted primarily by AMS labs.”
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Six fragments cut from a single diamond exhibited essentially identical 14C values (69.3 ± 0.5 ka to 70.6 ± 0.5 ka 14C years BP).
“Six fragments cut from a single diamond exhibited essentially identical 14 C values -69.3 + 0.5 ka -70.6 + 0.5 ka 14 C years BP.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [8] 8. Holzschuh J, Pontcharra J de, Miller H (2012) Recent C-14 dating of fossils including dinosaur bone collagen. Are theresults a confirmation of rapid formation of the geologic column as modern sedimentology studies have predicted?. In: von Brandenstein-Zeppelin AG, von Stockhausen A (eds.). Evolution Theory and the Sciences: A Critical Examination. Pg 295-321, Gerhard Hess Verlag, Bad Schussenried, Germany.
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The finding that stratigraphic divisions do not correspond to sedimentary genesis has been confirmed by experiment.
“This has been confirmed by experiment [36], [37](see Figure 2).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [36] 36. Berthault G (2004) Sedimentological interpretation of the Tonto Group stratigraphy (Grand Canyon Colorado River). Lithology and Mineral Resources 39: 480-484. source
- cites [37] 37. McKee ED, Crosby EJ, Berryhill HL (1967) Flood deposits, Bijou Creek, Colorado, June 1965 . Journal of Sedimentary Research. 37:829-851. source
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Thirteen diamond samples from Paleozoic alluvial deposits in Brazil yielded pMC's of 0.026 to 0.005, or 14C ages of 66,500 to 80,000 14C years BP.
“Thirteen diamond samples yielded pMC's of 0.026 to 0.005, or 14 C ages of 66,500 to 80,000 14 C years BP.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [8] 8. Holzschuh J, Pontcharra J de, Miller H (2012) Recent C-14 dating of fossils including dinosaur bone collagen. Are theresults a confirmation of rapid formation of the geologic column as modern sedimentology studies have predicted?. In: von Brandenstein-Zeppelin AG, von Stockhausen A (eds.). Evolution Theory and the Sciences: A Critical Examination. Pg 295-321, Gerhard Hess Verlag, Bad Schussenried, Germany.
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- Interpretationnone given
The Reservoir Effect is due to ingestion of gas containing old carbon.
“The effect is due to ingestion of gas containing old carbon.”
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Old carbon ingested during lifetime cannot be removed.
“Old carbon (with a low 14 C/ 12 C ratio) ingested during lifetime cannot be removed.”
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These licensed, professional laboratories follow the protocols developed over a period of 60 years, as reported in the journal Radiocarbon [20] and elsewhere.
“These licensed, professional laboratories follow the protocols developed over a period of 60 years, as reported in the journal Radiocarbon [20] and elsewhere.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [20] 20. Rink WJ, Schwarcz HP, Valoch K, Seitl L, Stringer CB (1996) ESR Dating of Micoquian Industry and Neanderthal Remains at Kulna Cave, Czech Republic. Journal of Archaeological Science 23: 889-901. source
- Study design and conductown data
None of the authors' samples from 1990 on had shellac-type coatings.
“However, none of our samples from 1990 on had such coatings.”
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The anomalous but consistent finding that a variety of fossils buried throughout the Phanerozoic actually contain 14C suggests a much younger geologic column.
“The anomalous but consistent finding that a variety of fossils buried throughout the Phanerozoic actually contain 14 C suggests a much younger geologic column.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim- Rests on an assumption: Fossils such as wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and diamonds should contain zero 14C under prevailing ideas of Earth history.
- Premisecitation
A modern aquatic plant (Charophyceae) growing under water yielded 17,300 +/- 400 years.
“A-438 Modern Aquatic plant (Charophyceae) growing under water, 17,300+/-400 years”
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Dinosaurs apparently coexisted with both Neanderthal and Modern man for a period of time.
“Dinosaurs apparently coexisted with both Neanderthal and Modern man for a period of time.”
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The 45 million years between the Late Cretaceous and Late Jurassic epochs are also mistaken, since dinosaur fossils and coal from these strata exhibit equivalent 14C ages.
“The 45 million years between the Late Cretaceous and Late Jurassic epochs are also mistaken, since dinosaur fossils and coal from these strata exhibit equivalent 14 C ages.”
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14C-dating has been calibrated against known artifacts, tree rings, and annual lake sediments out to 52,800 years.
“Unlike long-age radioisotope dating, 14 C-dating has been calibrated against known artifacts, tree rings, and annual lake sediments out to 52,800 years [40].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [40] 40. Julien PY, Lan Y, Berthault G. (1993) Experiments on Stratification of Heterogeneous Sand Mixtures. Bull. Soc. Geol. France 164: 649-660.
- Premisenone given
Old carbon from recycled CO2, with less 14C than the atmosphere, can make a sample appear older than it really is.
“However, “old” carbon from recycled CO2, with less 14 C than the atmosphere, can make a sample appear older than it really is.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim - Interpretationreasoning
In some instances, 14C ages of living plants and trees reflect the intake of old carbon.
“Therefore, in some instances, 14 C ages of living plants and trees reflect the intake of old carbon.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim - Study design and conductown data
These tests show that any contamination introduced by AMS operations is likely to be miniscule in relation to the pMC levels obtained for the dinosaur bone samples in Table 1 that range between 6.45 to 0.61 pMC, or 22,020 ± 50 to 41,000 ± 220 14C years BP.
“These tests show that any contamination introduced by AMS operations is likely to be miniscule in relation to the pMC levels obtained for the dinosaur bone samples in Table 1 that range between 6.45 to 0.61 pMC, or 22,020 + 50 to 41,000 + 220 14 C years BP.”
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Shellac type preservatives, if present, could yield a much younger RC age for coated bone samples.
“Shellac type preservatives, if present, could yield a much younger RC age for coated bone samples.”
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Nuclear production of up to 1.0 pMC from the presence of large amounts of U and Th cannot occur in dinosaur bones, which contain small amounts of U and Th impurities, because the atomic cross sections are too low.
“Nuclear production of up to 1.0 pMC from the presence of large amounts of U and Th cannot occur in dinosaur bones, which contain small amounts of U and Th impurities, because the atomic cross sections are too low.”
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14C from the actual sample is probably the dominant component of the 'routine' background.
“14 C from the actual sample is probably the dominant component of the 'routine' background.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [8] 8. Holzschuh J, Pontcharra J de, Miller H (2012) Recent C-14 dating of fossils including dinosaur bone collagen. Are theresults a confirmation of rapid formation of the geologic column as modern sedimentology studies have predicted?. In: von Brandenstein-Zeppelin AG, von Stockhausen A (eds.). Evolution Theory and the Sciences: A Critical Examination. Pg 295-321, Gerhard Hess Verlag, Bad Schussenried, Germany.
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- Premisecitation
A living tree growing at a German airport absorbed fossil fuel gases from passing planes and yielded a pMC of 28.8, or a 14C age of 10,000 14C years BP.
“In another case, a living tree growing at a German airport absorbed fossil fuel gases from passing planes.It yielded a pMC of 28.8, or a 14 C age of 10,000 14 C years BP [28].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [28] 28. Collins MJ, Nielsen-Marsh CM, Hiller J, Smith CI , Roberts JP (2002) The survival of organic matter in bone: a review. Archaeometry 44: 383-394. source
- Interpretationnone given
The 65 to 150 million year ages attributed to dinosaurs are apparently erroneous.
“The 65 to 150 million year ages attributed to dinosaurs are apparently erroneous.”
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The 14C dating of dinosaurs presented here reinforces similar 14C data presented by [1].
“The 14 C dating of dinosaurs presented here reinforces similar 14 C data presented by [1].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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- Premisecitation
Complex organic substances should not survive burial past 100,000 years.
“Such complex organic substances should not survive burial past 100,000 years [41], [42].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [41] 41. Maithel SA, Brand L R, Whitmore JH (2013) Morphology of Avalanche Beds in the Coconino Sandstone at Chino Wash, Seligman, Arizona. Geological Society of America 45.
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- cites [42] 42. Schieber J, Southard JB (2009) Bedload transport of mud by floccule ripples - Direct observation of ripple migration processes and their implications. Geology 37: 483-486. source
- Interpretationown data
These studies demonstrate simultaneous deposition of multiple strata in rapidly moving water.
“These studies demonstrate simultaneous deposition of multiple strata in rapidly moving water [Figure 2].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [Figure 2]
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- Interpretationreasoning
Extensive sedimentary formations were possibly deposited by one or more cataclysmic events only thousands of years ago rather than millions.
“This leads to the possibility that extensive sedimentary formations were deposited by one or more cataclysmic events only thousands of years ago rather than millions.”
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The data displayed in the authors' Figures and Tables clearly demonstrate the ubiquitous presence of 14C in geologic formations where there should be none, if prevailing ideas of Earth history are correct.
“The data displayed in our Figures and Tables clearly demonstrate the ubiquitous presence of 14 C in geologic formations where there should be none, if prevailing ideas of Earth history are correct.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- Rests on an assumption: Fossils such as wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and diamonds should contain zero 14C under prevailing ideas of Earth history.
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FindingcitationCollagen content extracted from cancellous bone in a Triceratops femur was 0.35%, and from a Hadrosaur femur was 0.2%.
“We obtained collagen content of 0.35% extracted from cancellous bone in a Triceratops femur, and 0.2 % collagen from cancellous bone in a Hadrosaur femur [5] (Table 1)”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim1 of 1 sources checked- cites [5] 5. Lindgren J, Uvdal P, Engdahl A, Lee AH, Alwmark C et al. (2011) Microspectroscopic Evidence of Cretaceous Bone Proteins. PLoS ONE 6: 8-9. source
The Results section, “Combined analyses of IRSNB 1624” (page unavailable), examines fibrous tissue from a mosasaur humerus, not cancellous bone from Triceratops or hadrosaur femurs. Searches for both species, cancellous bone, and the stated percentages found no passage reporting the claimed collagen contents. (LLM, conf=0.76)
Experimental — accuracy not yet measured
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Study design and conductcitationIncomplete removal of contaminants would produce very young RC dates, but the concordance of results from 9 different dinosaurs plus the mosasaur from Belgium, confirmed by dating various fractions, appears to rule out residual contamination.
“Incomplete removal of contaminants would be produce very young RC dates, but the concordance of results from 9 different dinosaurs plus the mosasaur from Belgium [Lindgren et al., 2011], confirmed by dating various fractions, appear to rule out residual contamination.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim1 of 1 sources checked- cites Lindgren et al., 2011 source
Split into 2 atoms — 1 confirmed, 1 partially supported, 0 disputed, 0 misattributed, 0 unverifiable. Expand the claim to see per-atom verdicts.
Experimental — accuracy not yet measured
May combine two claims.
Findingown dataThe δ13C ranges for dinosaur samples were -20.1 to -23.8 for collagen, -16.6 to -28.4 for bulk organic, and -3.1 to -9.1 for CO3 fractions.
“The evidence for endogenous pMC was further enhanced by the δ 13 C range of -20.1 to -23.8 for collagen, -16.6 to -28.4 for bulk organic, and -3.1 to -9.1 for CO3 fractions.”
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Findingown dataFor the Hadrosaur #2 femur bone, the results were -22.7 for δ13C and pMC of 5.61, or 23,170 ± 170 14C years BP.
“For the Hadrosaur #2 femur bone [UGAMS01937, Table 1], the results were -22.7 for δ 13 C and pMC of 5.61 (23,170 ±170) 14 C years BP using the same AMS system.”
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Findingown dataThe tested samples of coal, dinosaur bones, and South African diamonds have higher pMC values than the South American diamonds from Brazil used as test blanks by [10], who concluded that the bulk of 14C in their South American diamonds is endogenous.
“The data show that the tested samples of coal, dinosaur bones, and South African diamonds have higher pMC's than the South American diamonds from Brazil used as test blanks by [10], who concluded that the bulk of 14 C in their South American diamonds is endogenous.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [10] 10. Arslanov Kh A, Svezhentsev Yu S (1993) An improved method for radiocarbon dating fossil bones. Radiocarbon 35: 387-391. source
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FindingcitationThe modified Longin method of [7] yielded -24.8 for δ13C and ages of 2.15 pMC, or 30,890 ± 200 14C years BP for an interior bone sample from Triceratops #1.
“The modified Longin method of [7] for extracting collagen yielded -24.8 for δ 13 C and ages of 2.15 pMC, or 30,890 ± 200 14 C years BP (using an AMS system with 45,000 year reliability) for an interior bone sample from Triceratops #1 [GX32372, Table 1].”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [7] 7. Schweitzer MH, Zheng W, Organ CL, Avci R, Suo Z (2009) Biomolecular Characterization and Protein Sequences of the Campanian Hadrosaur B. Canadensis. Science 324:626-631. source
May combine two claims.
Findingown dataWood from an Upper Cretaceous drill core in permafrost at Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, yielded a pMC of 0.45, δ13C of -24.8, and an age of 43,380 ± 380 14C years BP.
“Wood obtained from an oil geologist, who had extracted it from an Upper Cretaceous drill core deep in the permafrost of Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, yielded a pMC of 0.45, δ 13 C of -24.8 and an age of 43,380 ± 380 14 C years BP”
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Findingown dataThe carbonate portion of bioapatite was about 0.6% and these fractions fell in the range of -3.1 to -9.1 per mil for δ13C, whereas the organic fraction showed δ13C values ranging from -15.7 to -28.4 per mil.
“The carbonate portion of bioapatite was about 0.6% and these fractions fell in the range of -3.1 to -9.1 per mil for δ 13 C, whereas the organic fraction showed δ 13 C values ranging from -15.7 to -28.4 per mil.”
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Findingown dataAll the dinosaur, wood, coal, shale and younger amber samples appear to contain significant amounts of 14C, which was demonstrated to be endogenous and not due to contamination or systematic instrument error.
“The primary result is that all the dinosaur, wood, coal, shale and the younger amber samples, appear to contain significant amounts of 14 C, which was demonstrated to be endogenous and not due to contamination or systematic instrument error.”
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Findingown dataShale from an Eocene formation in Colorado contained 10.88% carbon, yielding 0.37 pMC, or 45,130 ± 270 14C years BP.
“Shale from an Eocene formation in Colorado contained 10.88% carbon, yielding a similar age to that of younger coal at 0.37 pMC, or 45,130 ± 270 14 C years BP (Table 2 #13).”
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Findingown dataThe average 14C/pMC content varies from one fossil type to another, with dinosaur bones youngest, wood, amber, and coal intermediate, and diamonds oldest.
“The average 14 C, or pMC, content (Figure 1) varies from one fossil type to another, the youngest being dinosaur bones.Wood, amber, and coal are intermediate and the oldest are diamonds.”
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Findingown dataThere were no significant pMC differences between Cretaceous and Jurassic dinosaur fossils, although only two Jurassic samples were tested.
“There were no significant pMC differences between Cretaceous and Jurassic dinosaur fossils, although only two Jurassic samples were tested.”
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Findingown dataThe pMC results for wood from Cretaceous and Jurassic strata varied more than those for coal and generally contained higher pMC values.
“The pMC results for wood from Cretaceous and Jurassic strata varied more than those for coal, and generally contained higher pMC values, as shown in Table 3.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
FindingcitationThe paper's δ13C values compare favorably to those in a similar study of dinosaur δ13C values (-23 to -27) from the Judith River formation in Alberta, Canada.
“Our δ 13 C values compare favorably to those in a similar study of dinosaur δ 13 C values (-23 to -27) from the Judith River formation in Alberta, Canada [20] See Table 3.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [20] 20. Rink WJ, Schwarcz HP, Valoch K, Seitl L, Stringer CB (1996) ESR Dating of Micoquian Industry and Neanderthal Remains at Kulna Cave, Czech Republic. Journal of Archaeological Science 23: 889-901. source
May combine two claims.
Findingown dataScrapings from bone fragment surfaces of the Allosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus yielded 2.7% and 3.3% carbon, respectively, whereas the surface of an Edmontosaurus fragment containing 2.7% carbon gave 18.1% and 51.8% carbon content with one and three coats of shellac, respectively.
“For example, scrapings from bone fragment surfaces of the Allosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus were tested on a Leco furnace analyzer for carbon content yielding 2.7% and 3.3% carbon, respectively,whereas the surface of an Edmontosaurus fragment containing 2.7 % carbon gave 18.1% and 51.8% carbon content with one and three coats of shellac, respectively.”
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Findingnone givenThe total bone sample for Hadrosaur #1 from Alaska was ABA pretreated and then tested for 14C, as was the humic acid contaminant, which appeared to be older than the bone itself.
“The total bone sample for Hadrosaur #1 from Alaska was ABA pretreated and then tested for 14 C, as was the humic acid contaminant, which appeared to be older than the bone itself.”
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Findingnone givenAnomalous 14C is found in wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and diamonds.
“These anomalies are found in fossils that should contain zero 14 C,including, wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and even diamonds.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim- Rests on an assumption: Fossils such as wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and diamonds should contain zero 14C under prevailing ideas of Earth history.
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S4 (based). May combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningIf the unexpected 14C results are not anomalous, a portion of the geological time scale should be condensed, indicating a higher risk to Earth of meteorite impact due to greater frequency.
“If not, the implication is that a portion of the geological time scale should be condensed, indicating a higher risk to Earth of meteorite impact due to greater frequency.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing). May combine two claims.
Study design and conductcitationCollagen was extracted from both dinosaur femurs and purified by the modified Longin method, which adds alkali to the Longin method.
“Collagen was extracted from both dinosaur femurs and purified by the widely used “modified Longin method”, which adds alkali to the Longin method [7].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [7] 7. Schweitzer MH, Zheng W, Organ CL, Avci R, Suo Z (2009) Biomolecular Characterization and Protein Sequences of the Campanian Hadrosaur B. Canadensis. Science 324:626-631. source
May combine two claims.
Premisecitation[18] radiocarbon dated 363 mammoth bone, tusk, teeth and soft tissue samples from many sites in Eurasia, with a fairly even temporal distribution between 10,000 and 40,000 14C years BP and fewer dating from 45,000 to 50,000 14C years BP.
“[18] radiocarbon dated 363 mammoth bone, tusk, teeth and soft tissue samples from many sites in Eurasia.The temporal distribution was fairly even between 10,000 and 40,000 14 C years BP (pMC's of 28.8 and 0.69), with fewer dating from 45,000 to 50,000 14 C years BP (pMC's of 0.37 to 0.2).”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [18] 18. Harrington CR, Morlan RE (2002) Evidence for Human Modification of a late PleistoceneBison from the Klondike District, Yukon Territory, Canada. Arctic. Inst. N. Am. 55: 143-147.
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Interpretationreasoning14C is endogenous to all of the tested coal, dinosaur bones, South African diamonds, and South American diamonds.
“This suggests that 14 C is endogenous to all of the above.”
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PremisecitationThe nitrogen content for 15 species of fish and aquatic reptiles was -1.0% to 11.6% N content, with a mean of 7.2% + 1; a mean of 5.4% + 3 for 16 species of amphibians and mesofauna; a mean of 4.7% + 0.5 for 5 species of Hadrosaurids; and a mean of 6.6% + 0.4 for 6 species of Tyranosaurids.
“The nitrogen content for 15 species of fish and aquatic reptiles was -1.0% to 11.6% N content, with a mean of 7.2% + 1; a mean of 5.4% + 3 for 16 species of amphibians and mesofauna; a mean of 4.7% + 0.5 for 5 species of Hadrosaurids; and a mean of 6.6% + 0.4 for 6 species of Tyranosaurids.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [18] 18. Harrington CR, Morlan RE (2002) Evidence for Human Modification of a late PleistoceneBison from the Klondike District, Yukon Territory, Canada. Arctic. Inst. N. Am. 55: 143-147.
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Premisenone givenThe Canadian dinosaur bones were located in a region that was under ice during the Last Glacial Maximum, whereas the bones of the ten dinosaurs the paper had radiocarbon dated were not under ice during the LGM.
“Interestingly, the Canadian dinosaur bones were located in a region that was under ice during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), whereas the bones of the ten dinosaurs we had radiocarbon dated were not under ice during the LGM.”
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Interpretationown dataAlthough near the AMS detection limit, the 14C is evidently endogenous to the amber, as it apparently is to the dinosaur bones and coal.
“Although near the AMS detection limit, the 14 C is evidently endogenous to the amber, as it apparently is to the dinosaur bones and coal.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimClassified as probably not a substantial claim. May combine two claims.
Premisecitation[1] argue that the coal and diamonds they tested contain intrinsic 14C, and that recorded low pMC values were not due to systematic instrument error or contamination.
“[1]argue that the coal and even diamonds they tested contain intrinsic 14 C, and that although recorded pMC's were low (as shown in Figure 1 and Tables 4 and 5) it was not due to systematic instrument error (as demonstrated by [10] or contamination.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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- cites [10] 10. Arslanov Kh A, Svezhentsev Yu S (1993) An improved method for radiocarbon dating fossil bones. Radiocarbon 35: 387-391. source
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InterpretationcitationThe paper concluded that some fossils contained endogenous 14C, as did [1] for coal and South African diamonds.
“Although the dates of some fossils approached the upper limit of the more sensitive AMS systems, we concluded that they contained endogenous 14 C, as did [1] for coal and South African diamonds.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
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Study design and conductcitationStandard acid-base-acid pretreatment was used on the mosasaur sample to remove contaminants such as calcite and humic acid before AMS testing, making contamination an extremely unlikely 14C source.
“Standard acidbase-acid (ABA) pre-treatment was used to remove contaminants such as calcite and humic acid before AMS testing, making contamination an extremely unlikely 14 C source.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [2] 2. strata by C. Baugh and B. Dunkel; identified by C. Baugh in 2014. Psittacosaurus, a small ceratopsian dinosaur whose name means "parrot lizard". The tail bone is from the Gobi Desert, donated by Mt. Blanco Museum. Mosasaur -see Lindgren et al. 2011.
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Study design and conductown dataThe collagen fractions of three dinosaur bones from southern Montana were miniscule (0.35, 0.2 and 0.1%) but were still dateable and the ages were concordant with other bone fractions.
“The collagen fractions of three dinosaur bones from southern Montana were miniscule (0.35, 0.2 and 0.1%) but were still dateable and the ages were concordant with other bone fractions as shown in Table 1.”
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PremisecitationCollagen from an ancient bison and dire wolf from the same site in Yukon Territory, Canada, yielded 2.17 and 3.1 pMC, or 30,819 ± 975 and 27,920 ± 650 14C years BP respectively.
“The ages for collagen from an ancient bison and dire wolf reported by [15] were 2.17 and 3.1 pMC, or 30,819 ± 975 and 27,920 ± 650 14 C years BP respectively, excavated from the same site in Yukon Territory, Canada.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [15] 15. Stuckenrath R, Mielke JE (1973) Smithsonian Institution Radiocarbon Measurements VIII. Radiocarbon 15: 388-424.
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PremisecitationAccording to [26], the adjusted nitrogen content in metatarsal bones from 28 human skeletons dating to circa 1000 B.C. near Canimar Abajo, Cuba ranged from 5.8% to 10.4%, and collagen content ranged from 4.2 to 13%, giving a ratio of about 1:1 N to Collagen.
“According to the findings of [26], the adjusted nitrogen content in metatarsal bones from 28 human skeletons dating to circa 1000 B.C. near Canimar Abajo, Cuba ranged from 5.8% to 10.4%.Collagen content for these bones ranged from 4.2 to 13% giving a ratio of about 1:1 N to Collagen.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [26] 26. Zazzo A, Saliege JF (2011) Radiocarbon dating of biological apatites: A review. Palaeogeo. Palaeoclim. Palaeoeco 310: 52-61. source
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InterpretationreasoningIf the anomalous 14C ages were correct, then dinosaur bones could only be thousands of years old as well.
“Consequently, we concluded that if these anomalous 14 C ages were correct, then dinosaur bones could only be thousands of years old as well.”
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Study design and conductreasoningBecause the δ13C values fall near the range of modern values for bioapatite carbonate and organic compounds and because the dinosaur material is much more ancient than modern bone, some degree of modern contamination cannot be completely ruled out.
“Because these δ 13 C values fall near the range of modern values for bioapatite carbonate and organic compounds and because the dinosaur material is obviously much more ancient than modern bone, some degree of modern contamination cannot be completely ruled out.”
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InterpretationreasoningThe discovery of a realistic δ13C fractionation ratio is consistent with the hypothesis that the measured 14C is endogenous, confirming many reports by others of endogenous fossil soft tissue and collagen.
“However, the discovery of a realistic δ 13 C fractionation ratio is consistent with the hypothesis that our measured 14 C is endogenous, confirming the many reports by others of endogenous fossil soft tissue and collagen.”
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InterpretationcitationCarbonate apparently helped preserve the original wood in calcareous fossils, and may have a similar preservative effect on dinosaur soft tissue.
“Thus carbonate apparently helped preserve the original wood, and may have a similar preservative effect on dinosaur soft tissue.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [9] 9. Hedges EEM (1992) Sample treatment strategies in radiocarbon dating. In: Taylor RE, Long A, Kra RS (eds.). Radiocarbon after four decades. (1stedn), Pg 166-167, Springer Verlag, New York.
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
May combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningExtant bone holds more 13C than bioapatite fractions, as these dinosaur bones do.
“Extant bone thus holds more 13 C than bioapatite fractions, as these dinosaur bones do.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing). May combine two claims.
PremisecitationThe time of Neanderthal final extinction is uncertain, but current estimates indicate roughly 40,000 14C years BP, or a pMC of 0.69.
“The time of final extinction is uncertain, but current estimates indicate roughly 40,000 14 C years BP, or a pMC or 0.69.[18]”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [18] 18. Harrington CR, Morlan RE (2002) Evidence for Human Modification of a late PleistoceneBison from the Klondike District, Yukon Territory, Canada. Arctic. Inst. N. Am. 55: 143-147.
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
InterpretationreasoningDifferences in pMC between samples from different parts of the same bone could be influenced by exchange of original carbon in bioapatite with environmental carbon.
“although differences in pMC's between samples from different parts of the same bone could be influenced by this effect.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
InterpretationreasoningIf further investigation finds enhanced preservation of collagen in dinosaur bones under glacial ice for thousands of years, it reinforces the timeframe for burial indicated by the paper's radiocarbon dates.
“If further investigation finds enhanced preservation of collagen in dinosaur bones under glacial ice for thousands of years, it reinforces the timeframe for burial indicated by our radiocarbon dates.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimMay combine two claims.
Interpretationown dataThe authors' results are not merely anomalies but are reproducible data, pointing to a much younger geologic column, an observation that has not yet been recognized by other methods for assessing chronology.
“Our results are not merely anomalies but are reproducible data, pointing to a much younger geologic column, an observation that has not yet been recognized by other methods for assessing chronology.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimMay combine two claims.
Study design and conductreasoningThe contaminants and all others had been removed before dating, so the paper feels confident that its 14C ages are as accurate as can be achieved.
“Note that those contaminants and all others had been removed before dating.Therefore, we feel confident that our 14 C ages are as accurate as can be achieved.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S4 (based).
Study design and conductnone givenFungus would also be removed by the ABA pretreatment.
“Fungus would also be removed by the ABA pretreatment.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
PremisecitationSchieber and Southard, 2009 found that mudstones formed in moving waters rather than in the bottom of stationary lakes.
“Schieber and Southard, 2009 [39] found that mudstones formed in moving waters rather than in the bottom of stationary lakes.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites Schieber and Southard, 2009 [39] source
May combine two claims.
Study design and conductown dataCluster decay, if large amounts of U and/or Th are present, might cause N in collagen to change into 14C, but not at such low concentrations of 0.020 mg/kg for Uranium and 0.078 mg/kg for Thorium.
“Cluster decay, if large amounts of U and/or Th are present, might cause N in collagen to change into 14 C, but, not at such low concentrations of 0.020 mg/kg for Uranium and 0.078 mg/kg for Thorium (our data from Test America, 2012).”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimMay combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningDistinct dinosaur depictions exist world-wide, apparently because contemporaneous people actually saw them.
“Distinct dinosaur depictions exist world-wide, apparently because contemporaneous people actually saw them.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S4 (based).
Interpretationcitation[1] along with this study, recognize a much higher meteorite impact risk due to significantly shorter intervals between encounters with Earth than are commonly presumed.
“[1] along with this study, recognize a much higher meteorite impact risk due to significantly shorter intervals between encounters with Earth than are commonly presumed.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [1] 1. Hadrosaur #2, a duck billed dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in clay in the NW ¼, NE ¼ of Sec. 32, T16N, R56 E, Dawson County, Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline and H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #1, a ceratopsid dinosaur. A femur bone was excavated in 2004 in Cretaceous clay at 47º 6' 18" by 104º 39' 22" Montana by O. Kline of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. It was sawed open by O. Kline, H. Miller in 2005 to retrieve samples for C-14 testing. Triceratops #2, a very large c
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing). May combine two claims.
Study design and conductreasoningShellac-type protective coatings could be on bones from museums collected in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, so it is necessary to pretreat these bones with hot organic solvents before dating.
“Shellac-type protective coatings could be on bones from museums collected in the late 19 th and early 20 th centuries.Thus it is necessary to pretreat these bones with hot organic solvents before dating.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing), S4 (based).
Study design and conductnone givenYoung or old humic acids from new or old vegetation are easily removed by alkali (base).
“Young or old humic acids from new or old vegetation are easily removed by alkali (base).”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimMay combine two claims.
PremisecitationThe Reservoir Effect can cause older 14C ages than are true, as evidenced by a living tree at a German airport giving an RC age of 28.8 pMC, or 10,000 years, and living plants from Montezuma Well in Arizona yielding 11.8 to 4.5 pMC, or 17,300 to 24,750 14C years BP.
“The Reservoir Effect can cause older 14 C ages than are true, as evidenced by a living tree at a German airport giving an RC age of 28.8 pMC, or 10,000 years [Huber, 1958], and living plants from Montezuma Well in Arizona yielding 11.8 to 4.5 pMC, or 17,300 to 24,750 14 C years BP [Ogden, 1967].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 2 sources checked- cites Huber, 1958
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
- cites Ogden, 1967
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
May combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningPretreatment removes contamination, allowing radiocarbon dating to be a useful tool.
“Pretreatment removes contamination, allowing radiocarbon dating to be a useful tool.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimMay combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningThe dinosaur bones sampled were in good to very good condition or rarely petrified, so their 14C ages would not be much affected by exchange of original carbon in bioapatite with environmental carbon.
“The dinosaur bones we sampled were in good to very good condition or, rarely, petrified, so we doubt that our 14 C ages would be much affected, although differences in pMC's between samples from different parts of the same bone could be influenced by this effect.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimMay combine two claims.
InterpretationreasoningThe 19th century hypothesis that sedimentary formations took millions of years to form is clearly contradicted by 14C ages for Neanderthals, wood, coal, amber, shale and dinosaur bones as well as with studies of sedimentary deposits in moving water, including mudstone.
“The 19 th century hypothesis that sedimentary formations took millions of years to form is clearly contradicted by 14 C ages for Neanderthals, wood, coal, amber, shale and dinosaur bones as well as with studies of sedimentary deposits in moving water, including mudstone.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimMay combine two claims.
Study design and conductown dataThe AMS lab pretreated the Psittacosaurus tail bone containing possible shellac and glue, and Triceratops #2 outer bone containing PVC coating, and these RC ages were in the same range as those for other bone fractions.
“The AMS lab did this for the Psittacosaurus tail bone containing possible shellac and glue, and Triceratops #2 outer bone containing PVC coating (used in modern times by paleontologists).These RC ages were in the same range as those for other bone fractions.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimMay combine two claims.
Study design and conductown dataIncomplete removal of organic contaminants could result in ages in the thousands of years, but concordant 14C ages in the range of 22,000 to 31,000 14C years BP from five different labs testing a variety of fractions makes contamination unlikely.
“Incomplete removal of organic contaminants could result in ages in the thousands of years, but concordant 14 C ages in the range of 22,000 to 31,000 14 C years BP from five different labs testing a variety of fractions makes contamination unlikely.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claimClassified as probably not a substantial claim. May combine two claims.
Premisecitation[38] found the large cross-beds of the Coconino sandstones of the Grand Canyon difficult to explain within current aeolian models and suggest that a significant part of the Coconino may have been formed under water.
“[38] found the large cross-beds of the Coconino sandstones of the Grand Canyon difficult to explain within current aeolian models and they suggest that a significant part of the Coconino may have been formed under water.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [38] 38. Berthault G (2002) Geological dating principles questioned. Paleohydraulics: a new approach. Journal of Geodesy and Geodynamics 22: 19-26.
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
May combine two claims.
Premisecitation[31] used an acid-base-wet oxidation pretreatment, oxidizing graphite and reducing it again, obtaining a pMC of 0.04 ± 0.02, using oxygen as the oxidant rather than copper oxide, which can introduce contamination during combustion of samples.
“For example, [31] used an acid-base-wet oxidation pretreatment.They oxidized graphite and reduced it again, obtaining a pMC of 0,04 + 0.02, using oxygen as the oxidant rather than copper oxide, which can introduce contamination during the combustion of samples.”
Quote in the paperSubstantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [31] 31. Huber B (1958) Recording gaseous exchange under field conditions. In: Thimann KV (ed.). The Physiology of Forest Trees. Pg. 187-195, Ronald Press, New York.
Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
PremisecitationAn impact in the Chesapeake Bay caused a 500 m-high tsunami.
“and an impact in the Chesapeake Bay caused a 500 m-high tsunami [44].”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [44] 44. Bada J L, Wang X S, Hamilton H (1999) Preservation of key biomolecules in the fossil record: current knowledge and future challenges. Phil Trans of the Royal Soc B: Biol Sci 354: 77-87. source
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S4 (based).
Interpretationnone givenThe minute amounts or absence of collagen found in dinosaur bones could be at least partially attributed to their burial in megaflood deposits, with associated leaching, so that only the CaCO3 of bioapatite could be 14C dated.
“The minute amounts or absence of collagen found in dinosaur bones could be at least partially attributed to their burial in megaflood deposits, with associated leaching, so that only the CaCO3 of bioapatite could be 14 C dated.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing).
PremisecitationAn impact off the New Jersey coast sent a 20 m-high wave up the Hudson River.
“An impact off the New Jersey coast sent a 20 m-high wave up the Hudson River [43]”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim0 of 1 sources checked- cites [43] 43. Ramsey CB, Staff RA, Bryant CL, Brock F, Kitagawa H et al. (2012) A Complete Terrestrial Radiocarbon Record for 11.2 to 52.8 kyr B.P. Science 338: 370-374. source
Probably not a substantial claim: may not pass S1 (asserted), S2 (checkable), S4 (based). May combine two claims.
Interpretationnone givenAt least a portion of the geological time scale should be condensed, which threatens a higher risk to Earth of meteorite impact.
“The world will be well served by further investigating evidence that at least a portion of the geological time scale should be condensed, which threatens a higher risk to Earth of meteorite impact.”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claimProbably not a substantial claim: may not pass S3 (load-bearing), S4 (based).
InterpretationreasoningAssuming a random distribution, there would have been an additional 430 impacts in the oceans, which compose 70% of the Earth's surface.
“Assuming a random distribution, there would have been an additional 430 impacts in the oceans, which compose 70% of the Earth's surface; but over what time period?”
Quote in the paperNot a substantial claim- The authors state this as an assumption: Meteorite impacts are randomly distributed over Earth's surface.
The paper relies on this without support.
The conventional stratigraphic ages assigned to the fossil-bearing formations (e.g., Cretaceous, Jurassic, Pennsylvanian) are correct.
“in 108 Ma Cretaceous sandstone”
“in 150 Ma (Late Jurassic) sandstone of the Morrison Formation”
The paper relies on this without support.
The dinosaur bone samples analyzed are correctly identified as dinosaur remains.
“identified by Dr. W. Langston of the University of TX at Austin.”
“identified by J. Whitmore.”
The authors state this as an assumption.
Diamonds from Paleozoic alluvial deposits in Brazil have ages well over 100 million years and completely lack 14C content.
“An experiment to examine the level of machine background error was conducted using diamonds from Paleozoic alluvial deposits in Brazil, with assumed ages well over 100 million years and thus presumed to completely lack 14 C content [8]”
The authors state this as an assumption.
Meteorite impacts are randomly distributed over Earth's surface.
“Assuming a random distribution, there would have been an additional 430 impacts in the oceans, which compose 70% of the Earth's surface; but over what time period?”
The paper relies on this without support.
Fossils such as wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and diamonds should contain zero 14C under prevailing ideas of Earth history.
“These anomalies are found in fossils that should contain zero 14 C,including, wood, amber, coal, dinosaurs, and even diamonds.”
The paper relies on this without support.
Mudstones such as shale compose about 62% of the geologic column.
“Mudstones such as shale compose about 62% of the geologic column.”
The paper relies on this without support.
Over 60% of sedimentary rocks are mudstone.
“Over 60% of sedimentary rocks are mudstone.”
Self-check
Percentages, sums and reported differences re-computed from the paper’s own numbers.
Each contradiction between two passages listed here was confirmed by an independent check.
Coal pMC range excludes values in Table 4
MinorThe abstract gives a range of 0.16-0.33 pMC for the ten coal specimens. Table 4 lists values of 0.10 and 0.46 pMC among those ten specimens, outside both ends of that range.
“Ten coal specimens from the United States from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata were 0.33 to 0.16 pMC, or 46,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP.”
“| DECS-16 | Blind Canyon | Utah | Emery | Cretaceous | 0.10 + 0.03 | | DECS-28 | Green | Arizona | Navajo | Cretaceous | 0.18 + 0.02 | | DECS-18 | Kentucky #9 | Kentucky | Union | Pennsylvanian | 0.46 + 0.03 |”
Coal specimens include an omitted geological interval
MinorThe abstract describes the ten US coal specimens as coming from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata, but Table 4 also identifies three of them as Cretaceous.
“Ten coal specimens from the United States from Eocene and Pennsylvanian strata were 0.33 to 0.16 pMC, or 46,000 to 52,000 14 C years BP.”
“| DECS-15 | Lower Sunnyside | Utah | Carbon | Cretaceous | 0.35 + 0.03 | | DECS-16 | Blind Canyon | Utah | Emery | Cretaceous | 0.10 + 0.03 | | DECS-28 | Green | Arizona | Navajo | Cretaceous | 0.18 + 0.02 |”
South African diamond range does not match Table 5
MinorThe abstract states that South African diamond values range from 0.11 to 0.16 pMC. Table 5 instead includes values of 0.096 and 0.105 pMC; neither reaches the stated lower bound.
“South African diamonds yielded pMC values of from 0.16 to 0.11 pMC, or ages of 52,000 to 55,000 Carbon-14 years before present ( 14 C years BP) [Baumgardner et al., 2003].”
“| 0.105 | 55,194 | | | | 0.12 | 54,119 | | | | | | 0.018 | 69,300 | | 0.146 | 52,541 | | | | | | 0.015 | 70,600 | | 0.096 | 55,915 | Reference: Taylor and Southon [2007] "Use of natural diamonds to monitor C-14 AMS in- | |”
Wood results are attributed to the wrong table
MinorThe wood-results paragraph points to Table 3 for wood pMC values, but Table 3 is labeled as dinosaur-bone δ 13 C data. The wood results are presented in Table 2.
“The pMC results for wood from Cretaceous and Jurassic strata varied more than those for coal, and generally contained higher pMC values, as shown in Table 3.”
“Table 3. δ 13 C for dinosaur bones.”
Shale isotope value differs from Table 2
MinorThe discussion reports a δ 13 C value of -31.6 for the Colorado shale sample, while Table 2 gives -31.0 for that sample.
“Radiocarbon dating of shale containing 10.88% carbon from a quarry in Colorado's Eocene Green River Formation yielded a pMC of 0.37, or a 14 C age of 45,130 ± 270 14 C years BP (Table 2, #13) and δ 13 C of -31.6 in 2010”
“13.UGAMS-5838 Shale, CO (r) Lower Eocene, 50 -31.0/0.37 45,130 ± 270”
Dinosaur sample count changes
MinorThe abstract says the study covered ten dinosaurs, whereas Methods says its bone samples came from eleven dinosaurs.
“our field and lab study of ten dinosaurs from Texas to Alaska plus China”
“Four different AMS labs and one conventional β lab were utilized in 14 C-dating 24 bone samples from 11 dinosaurs (Table 1)”
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- References
- 31
- Citations by year
- 2022: 1 · 2019: 1
- FWCI
- 0.38
- Type
- journal article
- Language
- en
- Open access
- gold
- doi.org
- Topics
- Physical Sciences › Earth and Planetary Sciences › Paleontology › Archaeology and ancient environmental studies
- Physical Sciences › Earth and Planetary Sciences › Paleontology › Paleontology and Stratigraphy of Fossils
- Physical Sciences › Earth and Planetary Sciences › Paleontology › Paleontology and Evolutionary Biology
- Keywords
- soft tissue preservation, ancient biomolecules, dinosaur fossils, collagen, carbonate adsorption, blood iron, carbon isotope fractionation, geologic time scale, Mesozoic
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