Education matters – but does entrepreneurship education? An interview with David Birch
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For most entrepreneurship scholars and quite a few policy makers David Birch is well known, even though very few of today's scholars in the field have actually met him. His research in neighborhood and community development in the late seventies paved the way for the work of many of today's entrepreneurship scholars. In essence his findings were simple and easy to understand for policy makers: New and small businesses create the lion's share of new jobs. His finding became the foundation for government initiatives to support growing high-growth small firms—what Birch called “gazelles.” To be able to continue research and to build his database in order to analyze the development of businesses, Birch left MIT in 1983 to set up his own research company, Cognetics, Inc. Cognetics was subsequently sold to Publicis 3 years ago and became Arc Analytics. In 1996, David Birch was named the first recipient of the International Award for Entrepreneurship and Small Business Research.
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Active/hands-on activities contribute to the development of entrepreneurial efficacy (i.e., skillset) in students.
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“Aronsson (2004) and Garavan and O’Cinneide (1994) point out that educational programmes that are highly specialized in a single technical domain or a specific profession are not well suited to the broad-based and practice-oriented training required to teach entrepreneurial skills.”
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Learning Entrepreneurship by Hand Clapping: ABM in Use in Entrepreneurship Education
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The teachability dilemma of entrepreneurship
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Sustainable Entrepreneurship Education: A Comparative Approach
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The intention–behaviour link of higher education graduates
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“This assumption has earlier sparked strong discussions among academics and business practitioners whether entrepreneurship or small business skills can be learned (Aronsson & Birch, 2004; Fayolle & Gailly, 2013).”
BackgroundImpacts Of Entrepreneurship Centers And Programs On The Preparation Of Entrepreneurial Engineers
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“David Birch brings forward this more fundamental issue in his interview in AMLE when he questions whether we should have entrepreneurship education within universities (Aronson, 2004).”
BackgroundResultGrassroots entrepreneurial program: developing best practices
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“Practicums or internships that are directly related to the program’s courses (Gendron and Greene 2004) and which allow students the opportunity to gain tacit knowledge, and learn how to apply explicit knowledge (Aronsson 2004; Gilbert 2010) are also valuable.”
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“The foundational premise in EE challenges the notion that entrepreneurs are born and that entrepreneurialism as a personality and behavioural trait is cognitive pre-programming attributable to one’s heredity (Arora & Jain, 2019; Rigg & O’Dwyer, 2012; Aronsson, 2004).”
Systemic action learning action research and entrepreneurship momentum development
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Does Entrepreneurial Education Matter for the Performance of Medium-Sized Venture Entrepreneurs?
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Przedsiębiorczość: jednostka, organizacja, kontekst
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“Birch said that if you want to teach people to be entrepreneurs, you can’t.To them, entrepreneurship, like leadership, is a function of some invisible personality attributes (in Aronsson 2004).”
Background
- Authors
- Aronsson, M.
- Affiliations
- Entrepreneurship and Small Business Research Institute (SE)
- Corresponding author
- Aronsson, Magnus
- Venue
- Academy of Management Learning & Education
- Publisher
- Academy of Management
- Published
- 2004-09
- Volume
- 3
- Issue
- 3
- Pages
- 289-292
- ISSN
- 1537-260X (ISSN-L)
- 1944-9585
- OpenAlex
- W1982766682
- Cited by
- 157
- References
- 0
- Citations by year
- 2025: 3 · 2024: 10 · 2023: 7 · 2022: 7 · 2021: 7 · 2020: 10 · 2019: 13 · 2018: 5 · 2017: 9 · 2016: 6 · 2015: 9 · 2014: 11 · 2013: 10 · 2012: 11
- FWCI
- 4.43
- Type
- journal article
- Language
- en
- Open access
- closed
- Locations
- Academy of Management Learning and Education (publishedVersion)
- Topics
- Social Sciences › Business, Management and Accounting › Management of Technology and Innovation › Entrepreneurship Studies and Influences
- Social Sciences › Education › Vocational and Entrepreneurial Education
- Social Sciences › Economics, Econometrics and Finance › Economics and Econometrics › Firm Innovation and Growth
- Keywords
- entrepreneurship education, small business growth, gazelles, high-growth firms, job creation, entrepreneurship policy
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