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A length operator for canonical quantum gravity

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Thiemann, T.·1998·Journal of Mathematical Physics

Abstract

We construct an operator that measures the length of a curve in four-dimensional Lorentzian vacuum quantum gravity. We work in a representation in which an SU(2) connection is diagonal and it is therefore surprising that the operator obtained after regularization is densely defined, does not suffer from factor ordering singularities, and does not require any renormalization. We show that the length operator admits self-adjoint extensions and compute part of its spectrum which, like its companions, the volume and area operators already constructed in the literature, is purely discrete and roughly quantized in units of the Planck length. The length operator contains full and direct information about all the components of the metric tensor which facilitates the construction of so-called weave states which approximate a given classical three-geometry.

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Thiemann constructs a regularized length operator for a curve in four-dimensional Lorentzian vacuum canonical quantum gravity using the real SU(2) connection representation. The operator is densely defined, symmetric, positive semi-definite, admits self-adjoint extensions, and has discrete spectrum roughly quantized in Planck-length units.

Key findings

  • The length operator is an unbounded, self-adjoint, positive semi-definite operator with domain \(Cyl^3(\mathcal A/\mathcal G)\); it is gauge invariant and diffeomorphism covariantly defined.
  • Its spectrum is purely discrete, with no continuous part, like the area and volume operators; the paper reports a quantum of length involving \(4\sqrt{3}\,\ell_p\) (the displayed denominator is garbled in the provided text).
  • On trivalent graphs, all spin-network states are eigenvectors of the length operator, generally with non-vanishing eigenvalues, even though the volume operator vanishes on trivalent graphs.
  • The operator contains direct information about all metric components, motivating new intersecting/overlapping “weave” or “lattice” states and a tube operator to approximate a given classical 3-geometry.

Methods

  • Works in the real connection representation of canonical quantum gravity, with configuration space \(\mathcal A/\mathcal G\) of generalized SU(2) connections modulo gauge, Hilbert space \(L^2(\mathcal A/\mathcal G,d\mu_0)\), and cylindrical functions on piecewise analytic graphs.
  • Regularizes the classical length functional by replacing triad factors with Poisson brackets with the total volume \(V\), then replacing \(V\) by its quantized volume operator and Poisson brackets by commutators; the partition of the curve is adapted to the graph.
  • Spectral analysis uses spin-network states and recoupling theory of angular momentum, reducing matrix elements to \(6j\)-symbols; explicit eigenvalues are computed for simple trivalent graph cases.

Limitations

  • The paper states that a strict proof is missing that the eigenvalue function diverges with total spin, which would establish discreteness rigorously; it calls the needed behavior “plausible.”
  • It states that a closed formula for the volume operator spectrum is lacking, so eigenvalue computations are restricted to simple graph types.
  • It cannot show essential self-adjointness because it does not know how to write the operator purely in terms of right-invariant vector fields; it proves only that self-adjoint extensions exist.
  • Evident from the text: the construction is mathematical, with no empirical data or observational validation; the tube/weave discussion is illustrative, including a Euclidean example, rather than a full semiclassical analysis.

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  • Findingnone given
    § Abstract · p. 1

    The regularized length operator does not require any renormalization.

    “it is therefore surprising that the operator obtained after regularization is densely defined, does not suffer from factor ordering singularities and does not require any renormalization.”
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    § Abstract · p. 1

    The computed part of the length operator's spectrum is purely discrete.

    “We show that the length operator admits self-adjoint extensions and compute part of its spectrum which like its companions, the volume and area operators already constructed in the literature, is purely discrete and roughly is quantized in units of the Planck length.”
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    § Abstract · p. 1

    The length operator contains full and direct information about all components of the metric tensor.

    “The length operator contains full and direct information about all the components of the metric tensor which faciliates the construction of a new type of weave states which approximate a given classical 3-geometry.”
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  • Findingown data
    § Abstract · p. 1

    The length operator's spectrum is roughly quantized in units of the Planck length.

    “We show that the length operator admits self-adjoint extensions and compute part of its spectrum which like its companions, the volume and area operators already constructed in the literature, is purely discrete and roughly is quantized in units of the Planck length.”
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    § Abstract · p. 1

    The length operator admits self-adjoint extensions.

    “We show that the length operator admits self-adjoint extensions and compute part of its spectrum which like its companions, the volume and area operators already constructed in the literature, is purely discrete and roughly is quantized in units of the Planck length.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The complete spectrum of L_γ(c) is already attained on Dγ and it has no continuous part.

    “Therefore the complete spectrum of ˆ L γ ( c ) is already attained on D γ and it has no continuous part very much like its companions, the area and volume operators [10, 11].”
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    • cites [10] [10] C. Rovelli, L. Smolin, 'Discreteness of volume and area in quantum gravity' Nucl. Phys. B 442 (1995) 593, Erratum : Nucl. Phys. B 456 (1995) 734 - source

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    • cites [11] [11] A. Ashtekar, J. Lewandowski, 'Quantum Theory of Geometry I: Area Operators', Preprint CGPG-96/2-4, gr-qc/9602046 -

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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The spectrum of the length operator L(c) is attained on D and has no continuous part; this property is shared by the length, area, and volume operators.

    “Similarly, it follows that the spectrum of ˆ L ( c ) is attained on D and also does not have a continuous part (this property is shared by all three operators, length, area and volume)”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 20

    Since Delta = Planck length <= delta(j0), at most one vertex per unit length delta will contribute to Lambda(C), so L(C) correctly measures a one-dimensional object.

    “Since we have chosen ∆ = ℓ p ≤ δ ( j 0 ) it follows as a consistency check that at most one vertex per unit length δ will contribute to Λ( C ) so that ˆ L ( C ) correctly measures a one-dimensional object.”
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    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 16

    The 3(n-1)j-symbol can be reduced to a polynomial in 6j-symbols, where n is the valence of the vertex.

    “Fortunately one can reduce the 3( n -1) j -symbol to a polynomial in 6 -j symbols, n the valence of the vertex.”
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 19

    For a Euclidean metric q_ab = delta_ab, one can build a weave from a tri-valent lattice so that all length operators are automatically diagonal.

    “As an example assume that we wish to approximate the Euclidean metric q ab = δ ab so that it is everywhere constant and not varying at all. For simplicity we want to consider a weave built from a tri-valent lattice so that all length operators are automatically diagonal.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.1 Case A · p. 16

    The quantum of length is achieved for j0 = 1/2 and is given by a formula.

    “The quantum of length is achieved for j 0 = 1 / 2 and given by”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 3.3 Existence of the limit n →∞ · p. 8

    For a spin-network state f, L_n(c) f still depends on all edges of γ if f did, and there is no dependence on the segments of the partition of c.

    “This furnishes the proof that for a spin-network state f the function ˆ L n ( c ) f still depends on all of the edges of γ if f did and that there is no dependence on the segments of the partition of c which is to be expected since the classical length of a curve is a functional of E a i only.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 17

    q124 reduces to an antisymmetric 3x3 matrix with non-vanishing off-diagonal entries plus or minus a, plus or minus b, plus or minus c, eigenvalues 0 and plus or minus i mu where mu = sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2), and eigenvectors psi0 and psi_plus/minus.

    “So ˆ q 124 reduces to an antisymmetric 3 × 3 matrix with non-vanishing off-diagonal entries ± a, ± b, ± c , eigenvalues 0 , ± iµ where µ = √ a 2 + b 2 + c 2 and eigenvectors ψ 0 , ψ ± which can chosen to be”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 18

    Sigma is the eigenvalue of the volume operator V on both psi_plus and psi_minus, while it vanishes on psi0.

    “σ being the eigenvalue of ˆ V on both ψ ± while it vanishes on ψ 0 .”
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    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 10

    The eigenvalues of the length operator are real and given by non-negative functions λ({j_I}) of the spins j_I associated with the edges of γ.

    “Its eigenvalues are real and are given by certain non-negative functions λ ( { j I } ) of the spins j I associated with the edges of γ .”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 19

    Assuming all edges have equal spin j0, which implies j0 is integral, the eigenvalue of the tube operator is given by a formula which is set equal to L(c).

    “To simplify life further, let us assume that all edges have equal spin j 0 which implies that j 0 is integral. Let λ ( j 0 ) be the corresponding eigenvalue in (4.18) (almost never will the lattice have a segment in common with one of the contributing curves). Then it follows that we get for the eigenvalue of the tube operator”
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      “which we want to equal L ( c ).”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.1 Case A · p. 15

    For a divalent vertex not sharing a segment with c, j3 = 0 and necessarily j1 = j2 = j0, and the length eigenvalue simplifies to a formula which for large spin grows as sqrt(j0).

    “The formula for λ simplifies if we take v to be a divalent vertex not sharing a segment with c . Then j 3 = 0 and necessarily j 1 = j 2 = j 0 and we find simply”
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      “which for large spin grows as √ j 0 .”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 17

    The matrix elements of q124 reduce to 6j-symbols, and a new reduction of the 9j-symbol as a product of 6j-symbols is needed.

    “Note that the matrix elements are not of the standard textbook form &lt; j 12 , j 34 | j 13 , j 24 &gt; so that we need to invent a new reduction of the 9 j -symbol as a product of 6 j -symbols.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 16

    The space of states with given values j1, j2, j3, j4 = j = 1/2 is three-dimensional and is spanned by psi, psi_plus, and psi_minus.

    “The space of states with given values j 1 , j 2 , j 3 , j 4 = j = 1 / 2 is easily seen to be threedimensional and is spanned by ψ, ψ + , ψ -where ψ ± = | j 12 = j 3 ± 1 , j 123 = 1 , j = 1 / 2; j 1 , j 2 , j 3 , j 4 = 1 / 2 &gt; .”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 19

    Only a finite number of curves contribute in (5.1), so the tube operator is densely defined on D and is positive semidefinite, symmetric, and possesses self-adjoint extensions.

    “It follows that only a finite number of curves contribute in (5.1) and so the tube operator is densely defined on D and it is trivial to see that it is positive semidefinite, symmetric and possesses self-adjoint extensions.”
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    • Rests on an assumption: For a genuine distribution of vertices, each curve involved in (5.1) will intersect at most one vertex.
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.1 Case A · p. 15

    For a trivalent spin-network state T_gamma with vertex at v such that c and gamma share a segment incident at v, the eigenvalue lambda of L_v(c) is given by a formula with j3 in {j1+j2, j1+j2-1, ..., |j1-j2|}, provided the edges e1, e2, e3 incident at v are linearly independent; otherwise lambda = 0.

    “Theorem 4.1 The eigenvalue λ of ˆ L v ( c ) for a trivalent spin-network state T γ with vertex at v such that c and γ share a segment incident at v is given by ( j 3 ∈ { j 1 + j 2 , j 1 + j 2 -1 , .., | j 1 -j 2 |} )”
    • Also stated in: § 4.2.1 Case A · p. 15 · plain
      “provided the edges e 1 , e 2 , e 3 of γ incident at v are linearly independent, otherwise λ = 0 .”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.2.2 Case B · p. 18

    The trace tr(h_e4 psi_plus/minus) is zero because in writing h_e4 psi_plus/minus in terms of extended spin-networks one cannot get j = 0 since the contractor corresponding to j123 = 1 is unchanged.

    “It follows that tr( h e 4 ψ ± ) = 0 because in writing h e 4 ψ ± in terms of extended spin-networks we cannot get j = 0 since the contractor corresponding to j 123 = 1 is unchanged.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 19

    The density of vertices is 1/delta^3, so there are approximately pi L(c) Delta^2 / delta^3 vertices inside the region filled by the tube.

    “The density of vertices is given by 1 /δ 3 so that we have approximately πL ( c )∆ 2 /δ 3 vertices inside the region filled by the tube.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The principal symbol of the volume operator is a non-negative function with an at least two-dimensional kernel and is far from invertible.

    “Its principal symbol can be seen to be a non-negative function with an at least two-dimensional kernel and therefore is far from being invertible.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The matrix elements of the length operator in a spin-network basis do not depend on the graph; they depend only on the quantum numbers j and m and are therefore diffeomorphism invariant.

    “Although the set of piecewise analytic graphs is uncountable, the matrix elements of the length operator in a spin-network basis do not depend on the graph, they only depend on the quantum numbers ⃗ j, ⃗ m and are therefore diffeomorphism invariant .”
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    Findingnone given
    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 10

    The length operator L_γ(c) changes neither the graph γ on which a cylindrical function depends nor the irreducible representations of the corresponding spin-network states.

    “The important feature of ˆ L γ ( c ) is that it changes neither the graph γ on which a cylindrical function depends nor the irreducible representations of the corresponding spin-network states into which a cylindrical function f can be decomposed.”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 3.3 Existence of the limit n →∞ · p. 7

    The limit n→∞ in (3.12) exists trivially because (3.12) is independent of the segments s_i.

    “We now show that (3.12) is actually independent of the s i so that the limit n →∞ is already taken and the limit therefore exists trivially.”
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    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    The spectrum is entirely discrete, the quantum of length being given by 4 sqrt(3) times the Planck length divided by a formula.

    “The spectrum is entirely discrete, the quantum of the length being given by 4 √ 3 ℓ p / .”
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    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    The length operator is gauge invariant and diffeomorphism covariantly defined.

    “It is gauge invariant and diffeomorphism covariantly defined.”
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    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    The length operator is an unbounded, self-adjoint, positive semi-definite operator with domain Cyl3(A/G).

    “The length operator is an unbounded, self-adjoint, positive semi-definite operator with domain Cyl 3 ( A / G ).”
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    Findingreasoning
    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    The length operator leaves the piecewise analytic graph of a cylindrical function invariant, in particular analytic, so it is proper to allow the curve to be only piecewise smooth rather than piecewise analytic.

    “The length operator leaves the piecewise analytic graph of a cylindrical function invariant (in particular, analytic) therefore it is proper to allow the curve to be only piecewise smooth rather than piecewise analytic.”
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    Premisenone given
    § 1 Introduction · p. 2

    In the real connection representation, the metric depends on the momentum operator only and in a non-polynomial fashion, making it harder to define a well-defined metric operator.

    “In the real connection representation which we will use in the sequel the metric depends on the momentum operator only, and it depends on it in a non-polynomial fashion. It is therefore much harder to define a well-defined operator corresponding to it.”
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    Premisecitation
    § 1 Introduction · p. 1

    In Lorentzian signature, the underlying connection is complex valued, which makes incorporating the correct reality conditions at the quantum level difficult.

    “In the Lorentzian signature the underlying connection is complex valued [3] which renders the task of incorporating the correct reality conditions on the classical phase space variables at the quantum level into a difficult one.”
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    • cites [3] [3] A. Ashtekar, Phys. Rev. Lett. 57 2244 (1986), Phys. Rev. D36 , 1587 (1987). -

      Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.

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    § 1 Introduction · p. 1

    In the connection representation, the Wheeler-DeWitt operator adopts a polynomial form after multiplying it by sqrt(det(q_ab)).

    “Fortunately, there is an alternative, called the connection representation, in which the Wheeler-DeWitt operator adopts a polynomial form after multiplying it by √ det(( q ab )).”
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    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    Because the graph characterization depends on discrete labels and a union of countable sets is countable, the spectrum is still discrete in the sense that it does not have a continuous part.

    “Thus, since this characterization of a graph depends on discrete labels and the union of countable sets is a countable set it follows that the spectrum is still discrete in the sense that it does not have a continuous part.”
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    § 3.1 Regularization of the length operator · p. 5

    The volume operator (3.5) has dense domain Cyl^3(A/G) and is essentially self-adjoint on H with a purely discrete spectrum.

    “One can show that (3.5) has dense domain Cyl 3 ( A / G ) and is an essentially self-adjoint operator on H with a purely discrete spectrum (compare the forthcoming companion paper to [11]).”
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    • cites [11] [11] A. Ashtekar, J. Lewandowski, 'Quantum Theory of Geometry I: Area Operators', Preprint CGPG-96/2-4, gr-qc/9602046 -

      Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.

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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 18

    Even for the most random distribution of vertices with mean separation delta, even if delta is much smaller than the length of a given curve, the curve almost never intersects the graph in a vertex, so the quantum length of the curve would always be much smaller than its classical length.

    “On the other hand, even for the most random distribution of vertices with mean separation δ , even if δ is much smaller than the length of a given curve, the curve genuinely almost never intersects the graph in a vertex and so the quantum length of the curve would be always much smaller than its classical length.”
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    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The spectrum only depends on the C-infinity properties of the diffeomorphism class of a graph; all that matters is whether two edges are distinct or coincide.

    “It follows that the spectrum only depends on the C ∞ properties of the diffeomorphism class of a graph, that is, all that matters is whether two edges are distinct or coincide.”
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 20

    The limit delta approaching 0 blows up; it is physically meaningless to consider lattices with mean distance of vertices smaller than the Planck scale, which hints at a discrete structure.

    “The limit δ → 0 blows up, it is physically meaningless to consider lattices with mean distance of vertices smaller than Planck scale which, as already stated in the literature, hints at a discrete structure.”
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 18

    Any macroscopic volume or area in Sigma is necessarily intersected by the graph if delta is small enough, and it is intersected more often the smaller delta is.

    “Consider any macroscopic volume or area in Σ. It follows that the graph necessarily intersects these objects provided that δ is small enough and it intersects it the more often the smaller δ .”
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    § 4.1 Discreteness · p. 11

    The volume operator is the fourth root of q†q, where q = sum ǫ_IJK q_IJK, and is a 6th order homogeneous polynomial in the derivative operators X_I.

    “Unfortunately this does not work : the volume operator is easily seen to be the fourth root of the operator ˆ q † ˆ q, ˆ q = ∑ IJK ǫ IJK ˆ q IJK (compare [6]) and so is a 6-th order homogenous polynomial in the derivative operators X I .”
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    • cites [6] [6] T. Thiemann, 'Anomaly-free formulation of non-perturbative, fourdimensional, Lorentzian quantum gravity', Harvard Preprint HUTMP-96/B350, Physics Lett. B (in press) -

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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 20

    This hints that the spin of the lattice must have something to do with curvature, which in turn has to do with the local energy distribution of the gravitational field.

    “This hints at the fact that the spin of the lattice must have something to do with the curvature which in turn has to do with the local energy distribution of the gravitational field.”
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    § 4.2 Eigenvalues · p. 12

    Trivalent graphs are rather special and are insufficient to construct weave states that approximate a given classical geometry.

    “This indicates that trivalent graphs are rather special and are insufficient to construct weave states that approximate a given classical geometry.”
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    • Rests on an assumption: The volume operator vanishes on trivalent graphs.
    • Rests on an assumption: Classically, the volume of a region is known if one can measure the length of arbitrary curves through that region, and non-vanishing length of curves results in non-vanishing volume.
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 18

    Most weave eigenstates typically involved linked rather than intersecting loops, while the length and volume operators automatically annihilate those states, so more general weave states called lattice states are needed.

    “Most of these eigenstates typically only involved linked, rather than intersecting loops, while the length and volume operators automatically annihilate those states, we need to construct more general weave states for which the name 'lattice states' is more appropriate.”
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    • cites [25] [25] A. Ashtekar, C. Rovelli, L. Smolin, Phys. Rev. Lett. 69 (1992) 237 -

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    § 4.2.1 Case A · p. 16

    The length can change only in packets of Delta L approximately equal to plus or minus 1/2 sqrt(1/j0) times the Planck length, which approaches zero for large spin, so that for high spin the length looks like a continuous operator.

    “The length can change only in packets of ∆ L ≈ ± 1 2 √ 1 j 0 ℓ p which approaches zero for large spin so that for high spin the length looks like a continuous operator.”
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 19

    Following the old physical argument that an object always has to have a linear extension of at least one Planck length in order not to form a black hole, a one-dimensional curve cannot correspond to a physical object.

    “Following the old physical argument that an object always has to have a linear extension of at least one Planck length in order not to form a black hole, the conclusion is that a one-dimensional curve cannot correspond to a physical object.”
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    • Rests on an assumption: An object must have a linear extension of at least one Planck length in order not to form a black hole.
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    § 5 Tube operator and weaves · p. 20

    There is a large number of weave states corresponding to various values of j0 such that the same geometry is approximated; j0 cannot be taken to infinity because delta is much less than L(c).

    “Notice that there is a large number of weave states corresponding to the various values of j 0 such that the same geometry is approximated (we cannot let j 0 →∞ because of δ &lt;&lt; L ( c )).”
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    § 3.1 Regularization of the length operator · p. 5

    The total volume can be quantized in a mathematically rigorous way, with action on sufficiently differentiable cylindrical functions given by (3.5).

    “The total volume can be quantized in a mathematically rigorous way. Its action on sufficiently differentiable cylindrical functions is given by (we follow [11])”
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    • cites [11] [11] A. Ashtekar, J. Lewandowski, 'Quantum Theory of Geometry I: Area Operators', Preprint CGPG-96/2-4, gr-qc/9602046 -

      Couldn’t be matched to a paper in Crossref, so it can’t be checked.

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    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    The spectral analysis is tedious but straightforward; the complete spectrum can be found by writing a suitable computer code, and this is also true for the volume operator.

    “The spectral analysis turns out to be tedious but straightforward. In particular, the methods displayed here reveal that the complete spectrum can be found by writing a suitable computer code. This also is true for the volume operator [23].”
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    • cites [23] [23] T. Thiemann, 'Closed formula for the matrix elements of the volume operator for canonical quantum gravity', Harvard Preprint HUTMP-96/B-353 -

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    § 6 Summary · p. 20

    In order to approximate a 3-geometry, a tube operator has to be constructed.

    “In order approximate a 3-geometry a tube operator has to be constructed.”
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  • The authors state this as an assumption.

    The excitations of geometry are string-like rather than bubble-like.

    “The use of loops to probe connections is radical : those Wilson loop variables can become well-defined operators only if the excitations of geometry are string-like rather than bubble-like. On the other hand, given that assumption, it is possible to explicitly characterize the quantum configuration space A / G of generalized connections modulo gauge transformations.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    The operator version of the denominator in the classical length expression has a huge kernel and therefore cannot be defined on a dense domain.

    “Even if one could define it, it is by now well known that the operator version of the denominator of (3.2) has a huge kernel so that it could not be defined on a dense domain.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    The volume operator has a kernel which includes all divalent and trivalent graphs.

    “Indeed, it is by now well-known that the volume operator has a kernel which includes all divalent and trivalent graphs.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    An object must have a linear extension of at least one Planck length in order not to form a black hole.

    “Following the old physical argument that an object always has to have a linear extension of at least one Planck length in order not to form a black hole”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    The volume operator vanishes on trivalent graphs.

    “because the volume operator is known to vanish on trivalent graphs.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    Classically, the volume of a region is known if one can measure the length of arbitrary curves through that region, and non-vanishing length of curves results in non-vanishing volume.

    “Now, classically the volume of a region is known if one can measure the length of arbitrary curves through that region and so non-vanishing length of curves results in non-vanishing volume.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    For a genuine distribution of vertices, each curve involved in (5.1) will intersect at most one vertex.

    “For a genuine distribution of vertices, each curve involved in (5.1) will intersect at most one vertex.”
  • The paper relies on this without support.

    There is no other state-independent length scale in the problem besides the Planck length.

    “since there is no other state-independent length scale in the problem”
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  • Continuous space is regarded as an approximate concept at large scales, describable by weave states.

    “Continuous space is regarded as an approximate concept at large scales, which can be described by weave states [15].”

    From Loop quantum cosmology: I. Kinematics (2000) · cites this paper as [15]

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  • Four-spin basis omits an allowed coupling state

    Major

    The stated Clebsch-Gordan decomposition also permits j 12 = j 3 when j 123 = 1 and j 3 ≥ 1 / 2; for example, spin 1 coupled to spin 1 includes spin 1. Thus the claimed three-dimensional basis omits a permitted state, affecting the subsequent matrix and eigenvalue calculation.

  • Case A basis has an impossible state at the maximum edge spin

    Minor

    The paper allows j 3 = j 1 + j 2, but then the claimed V + basis includes j 12 = j 3 + 1. Two spins j 1 and j 2 cannot couple above j 1 + j 2, so V + is not always two-dimensional as stated.

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Research works printed but not linked: 10

  1. 1995, Acta Cosmologica, 21, 145
  2. T. Thiemann , Harvard University preprint HUTMP-96/B-359, gr-qc/9606089; · arXiv
  3. 1995, Acta Cosmologica, 21, 132
  4. 1996, Phys. Rev. D, 54, 5381
  5. 1995, Nucl. Phys. B, 456, 734
  6. 1995, Phys. Rev. D, 53, 5743
  7. T. Thiemann , “The inverse loop transform,” Harvard University preprint HUTMP-95/B-346, hep-th/9601105, · arXiv
  8. 1996, Phys. Rev. D, 54, 2664
  9. T. Thiemann , “Closed formula for the matrix elements of the volume operator for canonical quantum gravity,” Harvard University preprint HUTMP-96/B-353, gr-qc/9606091; · arXiv
  10. T. Thiemann , “QSD VI: Quantum Poincaré Algebra and a Quantum Positivity of Energy Theorem for Canonical Quantum Gravity,” Harvard University preprint HUTMP-96/B-356, gr-qc/9705020. · arXiv

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Authors
Thiemann, T.
Affiliations
Harvard University (US)
Corresponding author
Thiemann, T.
Venue
Journal of Mathematical Physics
Published
1998-06-01
Volume
39
Issue
6
Pages
3372-3392
ISSN
  • 0022-2488 (ISSN-L)
  • 1089-7658
OpenAlex
W1970736913
Cited by
156
References
26
Citations by year
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FWCI
6.55
Type
journal article
Language
en
Open access
Locations
  • Journal of Mathematical Physics (publishedVersion)
  • arXiv (Cornell University) (submittedVersion)
  • arXiv (Cornell University)
Topics
  • Physical Sciences › Physics and Astronomy › Statistical and Nonlinear Physics › Noncommutative and Quantum Gravity Theories
  • Physical Sciences › Physics and Astronomy › Astronomy and Astrophysics › Relativity and Gravitational Theory
  • Physical Sciences › Mathematics › Mathematical Physics › Advanced Operator Algebra Research
Keywords
canonical quantum gravity, SU(2) connection, factor ordering, self-adjoint extensions, discrete spectrum, Planck length, quantum geometry, area operator, volume operator

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